So is Bates out?

[THATHURMANATOR]

that is what WGR is reporting..... :(

[ICE74129]

At this point I don't want the guy honestly. To me he is too self serving and is looking for a HC Gig. He is a spurned coach right now and that means he wouldn't focus 100% on us.

I also want a guy that will be here for at least 2 years. Bates won't be that guy.

[SquishDaFish]

I want Ted Cotrell or Mike Singletary( SP?)

[Mr. Miyagi]

I hope it's not going to be some schmuck assistant from Orlando State College of Nebraska or something. :(

[ICE74129]

A little birdie in the press has just emailed me to say the same thing. Bates doesn't want the job.

He wants to sit out a year and see if he can get a HC Gig next year. That is the #1 reason I had concerns with the guy.

I say give singletary a shot.

[FirstDownBills]

At this point I don't want the guy honestly. To me he is too self serving and is looking for a HC Gig. He is a spurned coach right now and that means he wouldn't focus 100% on us.

I also want a guy that will be here for at least 2 years. Bates won't be that guy.

Agreed.

[T-Long]

Why would Singletary want to come to Buffalo when he is the Assistant Head Coach in San Fran?

[ICE74129]

Is he the DC? I just thought he was the LB coach?

[ICE74129]

LMAO It is too bad Teddy C called ralph a racist on his way out huh? That hasn't bit him in the ass now has it?

[Mahdi]

Singletary would be a good choice, He seems like he's motivated a good teacher and wants to make a big impression in the NFL as a coach. He also has that fiery attitude you want in a DC.

[Tatonka]

he was head and shoulders better than what is left otherwise.. this is definately a little depressing.

sherman turned us down for OC.. bates turns us down for DC..

what do you guys think? is this a money issue or possibly an issue with the front office (ie, the reason MM left)

[Tatonka]

i dont think there is any way cotrell comes back.. regardless of the racist comment.. he also runs a 3-4.. Jauron doesnt..

it wont happen..

we will have an inexperienced OC and an inexperienced DC.. which is basically the two biggest things that we could not have since our head coach is a "deligator".

and please dont start with the "Fairchild has tons of experience" thing.. he has never been a successful OC for an nfl team for a full year.

[ICE74129]

he was head and shoulders better than what is left otherwise.. this is definately a little depressing.

sherman turned us down for OC.. bates turns us down for OC..

what do you guys think? is this a money issue or possibly an issue with the front office (ie, the reason MM left)



Nah T I honestly don't think it was RALPHS money. I do think both men feel they are head coaches. Both feel they will get a HC gig next year. It was about money alright...the guarenteed money from Green bay they get for sitting.

So in reality I don't want ether here. I want coordinators that will be in buffalo for 2-3 years.

Stability is the main thing we lack. 4 HC's in about 8 years? That is flat stupid. No way in hell can this team be successful that way. we will now be on our 4th offensive system in the last 5 years alone! WCO and chuck and duck under GW. God knows what under MM and now Fairchilds system. how can you be successful that way?

DJ needs no less than 4-5 years uninterupted. We need coordinators here for at least 3 hopefully longer beause ralph follows the trend and pays out the butt to keep them. THEN I feel we will end up being successful.

[Saratoga Slim]

I don't think we should worry much about Sherman turning down the OC job. It would take a seriously humble dude to take an OC position after losing out in the HC interview process. it would be like John Kerry agreeing to serve as Bush's Vice President. I think he would have taken the HC gig if offered, and to me that says he didn't have a problem with the front office or money.

I think Bates, like ICE said, wants to be a HC and, as far as we know, the Bills offered a contract with restrictions to keep him here for a couple years. Even if the money Ralph offered was fair, a retrictive covenant might have been enough to scare him off.

To sum up, I just dont think Sherman wanted to be an OC under the guy that beat him, or an OC at all maybe. And I don't think we know enough about the Bates deal to draw any conclusions as to what might have soured things (if they are in fact soured)

[Mahdi]

i dont think there is any way cotrell comes back.. regardless of the racist comment.. he also runs a 3-4.. Jauron doesnt..

it wont happen..

we will have an inexperienced OC and an inexperienced DC.. which is basically the two biggest things that we could not have since our head coach is a "deligator".

and please dont start with the "Fairchild has tons of experience" thing.. he has never been a successful OC for an nfl team for a full year.
Cottrell ran a 4-3 in NY and Minnesota so I dont think that would be a problem.

[RedEyE]

This is precisely why the Bills should not have dragged their feet this year. I'm certain that Haslett would have taken the DC job in Buffalo, but they dragged their feet on signing Jauron. Now all the good coordinators are gone.

Watch and see, I bet the Texans get Sherman as OC and Bates as DC. Kubiak as HC. Freaking nuts.

[RedEyE]

Cottrell sucks.

[Nublar7]

Unless he changes his mind about an offer from the Buffalo Bills, or the Houston Texans change their mind about him, it appears former Green Bay defensive coordinator Jim Bates might actually sit out the 2006 season and collect the $900,000 the Packers owe him on his existing contract. Bates has been offered the Bills' coordinator post by new head coach Coach Jauron, but the salaries proposed by Buffalo are said to be below the $1.85 million the Packers owe him total for the 2006 and 2007 seasons.
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