View Full Version : Pros and Cons: Mike Hollis
northernbillfan
02-06-2003, 02:18 PM
Another pick up in the off season was Mike Hollis. In posting this, I can't think of too many cons but I'm sure there are some.
Pro: 54 yards to tie the game in Minnesota.
Voltron
02-06-2003, 02:37 PM
Con: When he has a bad game he really has a bad game 3 missed FG in 1 game
Pro: caught on well to the winds of the Ralph
don137
02-06-2003, 02:57 PM
Pro: pretty consistent, can handle pressure situations, better than most kickers in the league
Con: when he has a bad it is really bad, better days are behind him
venis2k1
02-06-2003, 03:05 PM
Con: he sucks really bad at kickoffs...really bad. He would often kick it out of bounds on kickoffs.
Pro: Dosn't get much more clutch than hitting a 54 yarder to send it to OT...I will remember the scream i let out when that ball bounced off the upright, then went in.
don137
02-06-2003, 03:15 PM
Could Moorman do kickoffs? I've seen him at training Camp kicking off and he can kick the heck out of it. I just don't want him to get a dead leg again
The_Philster
02-06-2003, 04:31 PM
I think Moorman could do kickoffs. A big part of what caused the fatigue last year was NFL Europe
Dozerdog
02-06-2003, 05:41 PM
Stop with the punter fatigue.
He's a frikin' PUNTER!
you want to stop getting tired? Halv the 100 or so punts a week in practice.
Hollis does suck on kick-offs that's why I could care less if he stays or goes. Better performance on kick-off's would translate into more points than a couple more missed field goals if the guy is not as consistent. You can't ignore the big kicks though having a clutch guy is huge. It would be better to have a guy you are confident throwing out there for a 55 yarder any time in the game also like David Akers. We chose to punt from the 32 yard line last season I don't care about the weather Hollis is expendable.
BLeonard
02-06-2003, 08:10 PM
Pro: He's a proven kicker in the NFL, and is a way for the Bills to avoid another Jake Arians/Shayne Graham combo
Con: His kickoffs are terrible. Nothing a kickoff specialist on the roster couldn't solve though.
-Bill
Note: Kickers are a dime a dozen, if we dump Hollis, we just need to put some effort into finding a reliable replacement.
Voltron
02-07-2003, 09:00 AM
Pro: He's one of just nine players with a career accuracy percentage of 80 percent or better (200 of 250)
John from Hemet
02-07-2003, 01:24 PM
Sometimes fan's memories just friggen amaze me....
Hollis had what.....ONE bad game last year?
He is not a kickoff specialist...and never was
It is that hard to remember the year before him when we couldn't count on our kicker to hit a chippee field goal regardless of the situation....and it factored in so much that we were going for it on 4th down in situaitons where we realistically should have been kicking field goals....
Please, please...PLEASE dont let Hollis go in a year where we might actually be good enough to get far into the playoffs....I hope Bills mgt has learned its lesson here.....
Dozerdog
02-07-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by John from Hemet
Sometimes fan's memories just friggen amaze me....
Hollis had what.....ONE bad game last year?
He is not a kickoff specialist...and never was
It is that hard to remember the year before him when we couldn't count on our kicker to hit a chippee field goal regardless of the situation....and it factored in so much that we were going for it on 4th down in situaitons where we realistically should have been kicking field goals....
Please, please...PLEASE dont let Hollis go in a year where we might actually be good enough to get far into the playoffs....I hope Bills mgt has learned its lesson here.....
Excellent point, John! Welcome back!
We need a clutch kicker and Hollis has been one over his career. Sign him up!
BillsMan80
02-07-2003, 11:46 PM
Pro: Consistent and has a decent leg for FGs.
Con: Kickoffs.
Guys, before we go pushing Mike out the door, remember his clutch games. Also, how can we forget the kick that knocked our beloved Bills out of the playoffs?
The_Philster
02-08-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by BillsMan80
Pro: Consistent and has a decent leg for FGs.
Con: Kickoffs.
Guys, before we go pushing Mike out the door, remember his clutch games. Also, how can we forget the kick that knocked our beloved Bills out of the playoffs?
No, we certainly can't forget that one...bounced off the right upright and in...I missed that game cause I couldn't get out of work. :sadwalk:
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