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    So for the first time since 1989...

    The Bills/Miami game will not be sold out. You think the fans are finally fed up with crap they put out on the field at the Ralph??? I, for one, am glad this is happenning. It's pathetic the Bills sold out so many home games and the Bills **** the bed in every one of them. Let this be a message to Ralph that Bills fans are fed up, and we'll take our business elsewhere (Sabres) if they don't put a competitive team on that field.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    I will be filling one seat

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    1...it's way too early to say that game won't be sold out
    2...taking our business elsewhere will send a message all right...to whatever owner takes over after Ralph passes away...that's it ok to move the team

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Philster
    1...it's way too early to say that game won't be sold out
    2...taking our business elsewhere will send a message all right...to whatever owner takes over after Ralph passes away...that's it ok to move the team

    oh so the fans have just those 2 choices? either go to the games, watch a perrennial losing team, or be threatened by the team leaving? I think Bills fans deserve better, but that's just me.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    perennial losing team Exxagerate much?
    The way you talk, the Bills aren't even trying to win...kind of a ridiculous assertion, if you ask me

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    When tickets prices rise above the lowest in the NFL, much less to average ticket price levels, THEN you'll deserve better than what you've been getting. Even at the lowest ticket prices in the NFL, more than a few tix are bought by out of town fans, or tix to games are sold to out of town fans at a premium.

    Sorry, you've been getting MORE than you deserve. Sorry, but it's the truth. But feel free to "send a message" to Ralph, and watch him "send a message" to you when he moves the team or sells it to the highest bidder who THEN moves the team.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Philster
    1...it's way too early to say that game won't be sold out
    Maybe he didn't see the schedule.
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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal
    When tickets prices rise above the lowest in the NFL, much less to average ticket price levels, THEN you'll deserve better than what you've been getting. Even at the lowest ticket prices in the NFL, more than a few tix are bought by out of town fans, or tix to games are sold to out of town fans at a premium.

    Sorry, you've been getting MORE than you deserve. Sorry, but it's the truth. But feel free to "send a message" to Ralph, and watch him "send a message" to you when he moves the team or sells it to the highest bidder who THEN moves the team.
    uhh...regarding ticket prices...they're as low as they are because of the WNY economy...if someone wanted to get real technical and took the ticket price and figured out the buying power of the money spent, odds are, the cost of Bills tickets are on par with the rest of the league.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    im just saying...everyone complains about how the team sucks, but still goes to the games, that was TD's big thing. the team sucks, so what does he do? signs the big name players to bring fans to the games, but are they competative? no. he didnt care what was going on because he could continue to pull all kinds of stunts to fills those seats, and as long as those seats are full, they didn't care, they were making money whether the team lost or won. just because i'm a bills fan doesnt mean i have to support the HO, i know things have changed around a bit, but whether or not this team is good has still to pan out, and im sorry, but until i see anything different from this team, which you have to admit, you haven't, (and yeh blah blah give it time bullcrap, you know theres plenty of teams that have new HO and theyre doin much better than the bills), and you got you people groanin at me when there are plenty of fans out there that aren't going to drive that extra however long from out of town to watch the bills. and you guys can't critizise me, it's the fans that live right in buffalo that arent going to the games either, so you think those fans are WRONG in not going to the games? those fans should feel THREATENED if they don't go? what kind of a world do we live in where you have to feel PRESSURED to go to a damn game in fear of the team moving??? thats REDICULOUS, your line of thinking. i will go to a game not because im fearful for them leaving, but i'll go to a game when I want to, when I feel it's worth MY time and MY money. and right now, its NOT. and 7, some-odd thousand people who usually go to the games agree with me. answer me WHY there are so many tickets available???

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    answer me WHY there are so many tickets available???
    because unfortunately, you're not the only one quitting on the team

    as far as groaning at you, I'd groan at anyone accusing the team of not trying

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    did i ever say they weren't trying? i told you, ill wait til the end of the season to make those assessments, but until i see anything different... im not giving up on the team, theyre still my team, and im still a fan! but im just glad that they are seeing a change in the fans to attend the games. you think those 7,000 people who aren't going to the game just happened to change their minds, theyre not fans? no, theyre fans, and they're pissed off fans, theyre bored fans, theyre frustrated fans. is that WRONG? no. is it the fans FAULT? no.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    you know, ANYONE who has gone through the past 7 disgusting seasons as a Bills fan, is a true fan. and i'm one of those, i've been a Bills fan all my life, so don't you tell me I'm giving up on them. until THEY give up putting a winning product on the field, I'll be a Bills fan. But things HAVE to turn around sometime, and something HAS to give. The Bills, and the Texans, only two teams without a playoff appearance in the past 7 years. The TEXANS. Nuff said.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    OpIv has some competition!

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    hahahaha...hey, I like OpIv. I dont know if its Washington, DC that makes us so bitter, but damn.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    I'm just not crazy about paying good money for tickets and having the refs show up and decide the game. It happens way more than it should and the NFL will not take any responsibility.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Then where do you get the idea that by not going to games (showing the team you don't care) that things will change for the better because games aren't selling out? Unless you're trying to say they aren't trying, what will it accomplish? Losing ticket sales and fan interest isn't going to make something magical happen if that's what you think.
    The only thing that losing fan interest will do is send the next owners a message that we don't care enough to keep the team here.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Well enough people go to the games, I'm sure they're still making a killing at profits, but still...its saying that it's getting old. That they're losing a fan base, and that if they DON'T do something about it, then they'll lose money. Maybe they'll do MORE? Maybe be a little bit more liberal in spending, knowing that it's getting more urgent and they just can't "wing it" anymore and if it fails, oh well, the fans will still come and pay for a losing team. There's a lot to say about teams who feel pressure from the fans. Look at what happened last season. TD was fired, and Mularkey left. They felt pressure from fans. You know why? Because they would lose money. And Op's right, they do have the fans by the nuts. But i sure as hell won't pay for a plane ticket, a hotel room, and a football ticket to see the bills lose. Last time i did that i saw the Steelers scrubs beat the snot out of our team, killing the playoff hope. Lucky I won my money back in canada but still. haha

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Maybe they'll do MORE?
    what more do you expect them to do? You claim you aren't saying that they aren't trying...what are you saying?
    Maybe be a little bit more liberal in spending, knowing that it's getting more urgent
    You DO realize they have to stay within the salary cap, right?
    TD was fired
    TD was fired after proving that Cowher was behind Pissburgh's success, not TD...and also after trying to make rules that Wilson was against (no derogatory signs, for example)

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    Quote Originally Posted by yordad
    Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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    Re: So for the first time since 1989...

    It's pathetic fans like me have been going to Bills games since the 1960's. I didn't even know this franchise was bad the last few years. Thanks for filling me in.

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