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    Updated Playoff picture.

    Everything went perfect yesterday. We even got a bonus Jacksonville loss. I’ll show you how that helps us later.

    Scenario 1. My original plan!

    Again, we need to win out (Tenn and at Baltimore). In addition we need the following:

    Week 16.
    Saturday night – KC over Oakland
    1:00 – NE over Jacksonville
    4:00 – Cincy over Denver
    Christmas night – Miami over Jets

    Yes, we need to root for NE and Miami. That’s going to be tough.

    Week 17
    This is where the Jacksonville loss helps us.

    In my old scenario, we needed KC to beat Jacksonville. Now need EITHER:

    KC over Jacksonville

    OR

    SF over Denver.

    The reason is that Denver beats us in tie-breakers, but KC beats Denver and we beat KC. So it’s simple. If Denver finishes 9-7, we also need KC to finish 9-7. Because then they would knock out Denver since ties are broken within the division first. If Denver finishes 8-8, then we don’t care what KC does.

    Finish (If KC beats Jax)
    Buff – 9-7
    Den – 9-7
    Jets – 9-7
    KC – 9-7
    Jax –8-8

    We beat the Jets on the 4th tie-breaker, KC beats Denver in the AFC West Tie-breaker, Buffalo beats KC on AFC record.

    Finish (if SF beats Denver because Jax beat KC)
    Buff – 9-7
    Jets – 9-7
    Jax –9-7
    KC – 8-8
    Den – 8-8

    We beat the Jets on the 4th tie-breaker, Buffalo beats Jax on head to head.


    Scenario 2: NEW

    This scenario is similar to the first, only in this one, we do not concede the first wild card to Cincy. We concede it to Denver.

    Under this scenario, we once again need to win out.

    Cincy finishes the season 0-3 (At Indy, At Den, Pitts).

    Tonight
    Indy over Cincy

    Week 16
    1:00 – NE over Jacksonville
    4:00 – Denver over Cincy
    Christmas night – Miami over Jets

    Week 17
    *Pitts over Cincy

    *This is where it gets interesting, we may not actually need this game. This could get confusing.

    Assuming Cincy beats to Pittsburgh and finishes 9-7, the race for the last spot would look something like this.

    Finish
    Buff – 9-7
    Cincy – 9-7
    Jax – 9-7 or 8-8 (L to NE, and it doesn’t matter about KC. )
    Jets – 9-7
    KC – 9-7 or 8-8 (W over Oakland, and it doesn’t matter about JAX)

    Again, tie-breakers are broken in the division first, therefore we eliminate the Jets based on the 4th tie-breaker.

    Then we go to AFC record and Cincy and Buffalo would finish 7-5, while the others would not and thus be eliminated.

    Buffalo and Cincy would go to the 4th wild card tiebreaker, which is Strength of victory. As is stands right now, if my plan plays out, The teams we beat have 62 wins and the teams Cincy beat have 57 wins. So as of now, we would have the tie-breaker and would get the spot. Those numbers will change in the last 2 weeks. If we did manage to tie in that 4th tie-breaker it would go to strength of schedule and we would also win that one. So Cincy would have to have a 6 point swing in Strength of victory over the last 2 weeks of the season.

    Now if Cincy does lose to Pittsburgh in week 17, Strength of victory won’t matter because they’ll finish a game behind us at 8-8. It would look like this:

    Finish
    Buff – 9-7
    Jax – 9-7 or 8-8 (L to NE, and it doesn’t matter about KC. )
    Jets – 9-7
    KC – 9-7 or 8-8 (W over Oakland, and it doesn’t matter about JAX)
    Cincy – 8-8.

    Like the scenario above, we beat Jets on 4th tiebreaker, and we’d beat either the Jags or KC on tie-breaker. We’re in the playoffs.
    Resign our own guys!

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Everything went perfect yesterday. We even got a bonus Jacksonville loss. I’ll show you how that helps us later.
    It would've been 'perfect' if Minnesota beat the Jets.
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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Ok holdup, first off we have to go 9-7 and I don't see it unless the Ravens sit their starters.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    This is confusing and I fear that it may make it seem more difficult then it actually is.

    Scenario 1

    Week 16
    KC over Oak
    NE over Jax
    Cincy over Den
    Miami over Jets

    Week 17

    KC over Jax
    Or
    SF over Den


    Scenario 2

    Tonight
    Indy over Cincy

    Week 16
    NE over Jax
    Denver over Cincy
    Miami over Jets

    Week 17
    We may or may not need Pitts to beat Cincy. Depending on Strength of victory ti-breaker.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE74129
    Ok holdup, first off we have to go 9-7.
    He already said that we'd have to win out

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Philster
    He already said that we'd have to win out
    And?

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat
    It would've been 'perfect' if Minnesota beat the Jets.

    We still would have needed the Jets to lose to Miami anyway so they finish 3-3 in the East and it goes to the 4th tie-breaker.

    A loss to Minny wouldn't really have helped us believe it or not.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE74129
    Ok holdup, first off we have to go 9-7 and I don't see it unless the Ravens sit their starters.
    With McNair being banged up, that might happen.

    Regardless, the Ravens are not an offensive juggernaut. While I agree the Bills migthnot score very much inthat game, I also don't see teh Ravens racking up many points.

    16-13 Bills. McGee finally gets his KO return for a TD.
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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    What’s very interesting is that if Indy can win tonight, the Cincy v. Denver game won’t really matter.

    If Cincy wins that one, we go with Scenario 1

    If Denver wins it, we’ll go to Scenario 2.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick76777
    What’s very interesting is that if Indy can win tonight, the Cincy v. Denver game won’t really matter.

    If Cincy wins that one, we go with Scenario 1

    If Denver wins it, we’ll go to Scenario 2.

    And if Cincy losses tonight and we go with Scenario 2, we could very well be in a spot where we won't need week 17 help.

    One game vs. the Ravens for a spot in the playoffs.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Lecter
    With McNair being banged up, that might happen.

    Regardless, the Ravens are not an offensive juggernaut. While I agree the Bills migthnot score very much inthat game, I also don't see teh Ravens racking up many points.

    16-13 Bills. McGee finally gets his KO return for a TD.
    True, its going to be more so how we protect the ball and score. If we can put up 17-24 points we win easy at Baltimore.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Go Miami
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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Guys we are in much better shape than you realize. We own some tie breakers etc. What really needs to happen is getting to 9-7. The teams that are at 8-6 have there work cut out. An Indy win would be huge tonight!!

    The Bills can beat the Ravens. Hell, with the exception of the Bears we have hung with everybody this year!!

    Travis Henry coming back to Buffalo scares me.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    What about if the Jets beat Miami? Are we out?

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Baltimore looks very beatable without McNair. He's an old man and if they win this week, I think he will be riding pine in week 17 to rest his bones before the playoffs begins. Of course that also depends on how the home field advantage positioning all comes into play.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdbillsfan
    What about if the Jets beat Miami? Are we out?

    Just about. If that happens, We can not catch them.

    We would need Cincy and Denver to lose out. (other then the game they play with each other. And we'd need a few other things.


    If there is a "most important game" it's the Miami vs. Jets game. we really need Miami to win that one.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    It would be great if we made the playoffs, but it is also completely unexpected. No one should hold this team liable if they finish a season at 8-8, 7-9, or even 9-7 without a playoff birth.

    The Bills nearly beat the Colts, Chargers and Patriots. Those were all hard fought winable games by Buffalo.

    I call this season progression and impressive. I have very high hopes for the future.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    My head hurts like hell.

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    Re: Updated Playoff picture.

    I love new scenarios.

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