If they miss the playoffs this year because they gave an extra point to NJ, then you feel free to *****.Originally Posted by OpIv37
If they miss the playoffs this year because they gave an extra point to NJ, then you feel free to *****.
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Hilarious!!!
Yes it does OP. It really does.
I mess around with you a lot but this thread is one of your more ridiculous in awhile.
Do you really want the Sabres to have to beat Brodeur on the road in the final game of the season to secure playoff positioning?
Granted, there are still 30 games left and it may not go down like that, but I'd much rather start making up ground now and lessen the chances of that happening so we don't have to worry about it.
If I said the sky was blue and 50 people came on here and argued with me that the sky was red, I'd still be right. That's what's going on here.
The Sabres let the team just ahead of them in the standings remain ahead of them in the standings by not finishing the game in regulation. You guys can make all the excuses about road trips and "hard fought games" or whatever you want, but the reality is that the Devils got a point out of the game and thus remain ahead of us in the standings. Nothing you can say will change that fact.
I don't care about winning 1-0. I just care about not giving up free points to teams close to us in the standings. Why is that so hard to understand?
First of all, I'm pretty sure they won 4-1 in the their only game in NJ this season.
Second, they did make up ground. They started out the other night down 2 points to NJ, and finished the night down 1 point. Last time I checked, that is making up ground.
but they could have been tied. Instead they settled for still being one point down. That's what frustrates me. Why am I the only one who seems to care about that? I just don't get it.
Because your never happy and it is sad.
BERNIAC!
But they wouldn't have been tied. NJ would've had the tie-breaker so the standings would've looked exactly the same, besides the one point difference.
I guess I'm not that upset about it because there are 30 games left to go.
I wish we could all just relax a little bit until the trade deadline. We'll know a whole lot more when that time comes of what this team is made of or what they will do.
There were four possible outcomes to the game.
1. A win (2 points for us, 0 for for them)
2. An OT Win (2 for us, 1 for them)
3. An OT loss (1 for us, 2 for them)
4. A loss (0 for us, 2 for them).
The team failed to obtain the best possible outcome, and failed to tie NJ in points. Why would anyone who claims to be a fan of the team be happy with anything less than the best possible outcome? That doesn't make any sense.
On a lighter note to this game, anybody not on Twitter or following me missed one of the greatest crow eating moments of my life about this game. BMN knows what I'm talking about.
Maybe the Devils earned the point.
There is no weakness in my position. What I am trying to show you is that you are *****ing about a win. Yes NJ get a point. But if the only acceptable outcome against the 2nd best team in the East (and 4th in the NHL) is a win in regulation, wouldn't that also be the only acceptable outcome against all lesser teams? Wouldn't that lead to a record that is almost 82-0?
The Sabres played the 4th best team in the league and the 2nd best in the East and won. And you are pissed about that. Livid. You find winning unacceptable.
If beating NJ in a SO in unacceptable, then when is acceptable to win in a SO? Only against Washington, Chicago and San Jose?
Sure it would have been nice to win in regulation. But they did not. Winning in a SO/OT is perfectly acceptable. They got more points than NJ in that game.
And you are acting like it is the worst possible outcome.
Although this proves that you will only be happy with an 82-0 record, with all wins in regulation.
No doubt outcome #1 is the best. But the reality is that outcome does not happen every game. When playing other top teams, sometimes you take the win and be happy with it. It is not a disaster to win games ina shootout.
The Sabres shouldn't LET them earn the point- that's their job and they didn't do it.
Winning in a SO/OT is only acceptable when it's against a WC team or a team so far behind the Sabres in the standings that it won't make a difference. Creating extra points in the standings by going to OT against teams close to us in the standings is dangerous, as missing the playoffs by two points last year shows.
To me, the only acceptable outcome to that game was a regulation win. Yes, I know it's unrealistic to expect the team to go 82-0 with no SO/OT wins. But for each individual game, the goal is a regulation win. When the opponent is an EC team close to to the Sabres in the standings, a regulation win becomes even more important.
I don't find winning unacceptable- I find giving up a point to the team just ahead of us in the standings unacceptable.
Op, what is an acceptable outcome for tonight's game?
Obviously the regulation win is the best possible outcome.
In this particular case, a SO/OT win wouldn't anger me because it would just mean that Boston is 16 points behind us in the standings instead of 17. I wouldn't be thrilled with it, but clearly giving up a point to Boston doesn't have nearly the implications of giving up a point to NJ, Washington, Ottawa, Pittsburgh.
So it is OK to have a SO/TO win against a lesser team but not a top level team?
That makes no sense. None.
Sure it does. You're basing your acceptable outcome on the quality of the opponent, which is irrelevant. It's the sabres' jobbto win hockey games, not beat bad teams while losing or going to OT against good ones.
I'm basing mine on what the Sabres have to do to help themselves in the standings. Right now, giving up a point to Boston is unlikely to affect the Sabres in the standings. Giving up a point to thebother teams I mentioned is very likely to hurt them in the standings. It's quite simple really.
So quality of opponent is irrelevant?
So if they lose to Carolina next week you won't *****?
Sure. Ok.
BTW, NJ gve up two points to the Sabres. As previously mentioned, 2 > 1. So the Sabres gained ground. It's true. Really. It is.
And I question as to whether or not it is "very likely" to hurt them in the standings. More likely? Sure. Very likely? I dunno. Or if finishing 3rd is that much worse than finishing 2nd if it does.
Op is WRONG guys. He knows it in his heart but too stubborn to admit it to us.
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