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    Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    When is it Maybin's turn?

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    he's getting his audition...he played more yesterday and actually had three tackles. cutting him right now would be a complete mistake and unfair.




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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    It's Maybin's 2nd year, Trent's 4th. I think we should continue to develop Maybin in the weight room, and see how he does.
    Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Reimers
    It's Maybin's 2nd year, Trent's 4th. I think we should continue to develop Maybin in the weight room, and see how he does.
    I'm not convinced he's ever going to be anything but a towel boy but the guy has played less than 50 NFL plays. He didn't take himself out of the lineup. Let him play and let's see if he has anything.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Maybin looked HORRIBLE yesterday but with that being said I have no idea why you would want to cut him now?

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR
    Maybin looked HORRIBLE yesterday
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR
    but with that being said I have no idea why you would want to cut him now?
    So they don't have to waste millions of dollars to find out he's a bust? The NFL is a business and the money spent on this guy is a waste. Cut your losses.
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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    If we cut all the absolute bums, we won't be able to field a team next Sunday.

    I HATE Maybin more then anyone, but i think Cornell Green and Donte Whitner are ahead of the pecking order.
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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    I'd dump McCargo first.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
    Agreed.

    So they don't have to waste millions of dollars to find out he's a bust? The NFL is a business and the money spent on this guy is a waste. Cut your losses.

    Millions?? He is not earning millions this year. He got the big guarenteed money - his base salary isn't killing the payroll.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon
    If we cut all the absolute bums, we won't be able to field a team next Sunday.
    They could pay somebody the league minimum and get more production out of him.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ebenezer
    Millions?? He is not earning millions this year. He got the big guarenteed money - his base salary isn't killing the payroll.
    8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal includes $15 million guaranteed. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

    Looks to me like they would save around $5 million.
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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
    They could pay somebody the league minimum and get more production out of him.
    True.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
    8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal includes $15 million guaranteed. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

    Looks to me like they would save around $6 million.
    Incorrect. how much of the $17million was guaranteed? How much of that is signing bonus that is already paid (they cannot "save" that)? What is his base salary for this year? He made $1.45 million last year. He is not making $6million this year. Long term savings might be larger but his salary this year is insignificant.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
    8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal includes $15 million guaranteed. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

    Looks to me like they would save around $5 million.
    Let's make a deal. Let him finish puberty, then we'll reassess.

    The guaranteed money would be a complete loss, which it may be already but I'd rather wait and see.

    Maybin didn't draft himself, and is still developing.

    Surely you can understand that, being the logical man of reason you are, right? This is odd behavior from you, usually your one line posts announcing how bad we suck, and who we should get rid of, contain no useful information, at all. Providing the contract numbers wad useful...see ther is a first time for everything!!

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    not cutting maybin after 2 years idiotic

    give him another offseason to learn his roll get bigger and maybe learn a pass rush move, to young to give up on him now.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    The fact that Maybin is still only 22 years old seems to always get lost here. The guy is still going to fill out more and get stronger and from what I am seeing he is attempting new pass rush moves every game. He really just needs time and experience to find out what he is good at and to perfect his speed rush.

    Talley really hit it on the head when he said that Maybin should not be in a 4 point stance. He should be standing up.


    I still think Maybin will come around but not till the second half of the season or even the final third. Or maybe not even till next year. One thing is for sure, last year he was well short of the listed 250 pounds. This year he is at least 245 if not more. He is getting there. Just needs time.

    Brian Orakpo and Clay Matthews are both 24.
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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Maybin got swallowed up, *****slapped, and schooled by Todd Lyght yesterday. I hope he turned that one into a learning experince and grows from it.

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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Maybin came out after his sophmore season and really didnt play much last year. this year is a 3-4 lets give him some time before labeling a "bust" Trent has had ample opportunity
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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Quote Originally Posted by TacklingDummy
    8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal includes $15 million guaranteed. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million, 2015: Free Agent

    Looks to me like they would save around $5 million.
    $15 million is already lost, no matter how you look at it.

    If he continues to suck like he does now, he won't see the whole $7.4 million. But let's be arbitrary, and say he earns all of that. If you add up 2010 - 2014 salaries (5 years), it's just over $5 million (The 395K from this year is now guaranteed).

    The grand total (including this year) is about $12.5 million. On the payroll, that's about $2.5 million a year. That's peanuts in this league, and won't affect our flexibility in any way. Cutting Maybin this early is stupid (and I hate Maybin).

    Yea yea, "Ralph is cheap," but Maybin's guaranteed money has already done the most damage.
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    Re: Now that we're cutting our losses on busts

    Pretty sure stats don't matter but james harrison first couple years didn't really do much. pretty sure steelers were glad they kept him sure developed into a good olb.
    3rd year didn't even start and had 0 sacks.


    just trying to point out why cutting someone year 2 is INSANE

    i dont like maybin because he acts like he has done so much but i do believe he can develop
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