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    "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Q. I would think like a Fletcher Cox and
    talk about Mark Barron the safety, maybe move
    up ahead of the Cowboys?

    MIKE MAYOCK: And Barron is one of the
    best players in this draft and I think he's going to
    go between 10 and 15. But he has them ticketed
    at 14 but there are other teams that could step up.
    I mean, look at Buffalo with ten, for instance. They
    are going to play New England twice a year with
    those tight ends.
    To me, Mark Barron and Luke Kuechly are
    two logical guys for Buffalo.

    http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ft-4-19-12.pdf

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Kuechly
    6'3¼"
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    WEIGHT
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    ARM LENGTH
    9.6"
    HAND SIZE
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    OVERALL RANK
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    Better at 10 I think.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    I don't get the choice of Barron at all. As Wilson was great in the early part of the season and Searcy provided great depth last year. I'd love to trade down with Dallas (or Philly) if meant acquiring another pick and still come away with Reiff or Martin in the 1st.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    I think we're solid at SS, but maybe Barron is a guy that could help the Bills trade down. After Barron there seems to be a decent amount of drop off at safety.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Elite instincts. Very similar to former PSU standout LB Sean Lee (Cowboys) in this department. Is disciplined. Takes very few false steps. Diagnoses play-action quickly. Locates the ball carrier as fast as any defender in the country. Always seems to be around the football. Gets the front seven lined up and is a very good on-field communicator.
    http://youtu.be/lXSfQWM0f3Y

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Mayock doesn't actually watch the Bills. We don't need a safety early, maybe pick one up later for depth. Definitely need a LB though.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by Beebe
    Elite instincts. Very similar to former PSU standout LB Sean Lee (Cowboys) in this department. Is disciplined. Takes very few false steps. Diagnoses play-action quickly. Locates the ball carrier as fast as any defender in the country. Always seems to be around the football. Gets the front seven lined up and is a very good on-field communicator.
    http://youtu.be/lXSfQWM0f3Y
    and where was Lee drafted? In the 2nd Round. Late 2nd at that. I stand by my mock
    that posted http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...d.php?t=211296

    or for a quick run down:

    Round 1: LT Riley Reiff Iowa:
    Round 2: OLB Lavonte David Nebraska
    Round 3: WR Marvin Jones California
    Round 4A: CB Josh Norman Coastal Carolina
    Round 4B: TE Michael Egnew Missori
    Round 5A: DE Julian Miller West Virginia
    Round 5B: QB Austin Davis Southern Miss
    Round 6:C Scott Wedige Nothern Illinois
    Round 7A: WR Lance Lewis Eastern Carolina
    Round 7B: CB Isaiah Frey Neveda
    Last edited by The Jokeman; 04-19-2012 at 11:00 PM.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    I honestly believe it'll come down to Floyd/Blackmon/Gilmore.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by kingJofNYC
    Mayock doesn't actually watch the Bills. We don't need a safety early, maybe pick one up later for depth. Definitely need a LB though.

    i think he understands than Nix doesn't care about need in the first round, he wants the BPA

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    You can find stars at every position who weren't first-round draft picks, so that cancels out.
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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor
    i think he understands than Nix doesn't care about need in the first round, he wants the BPA
    But Barron won't be the BPA at ten. I guess BPA depends on who you ask, but if we take a safety at 10 and his name isn't Eric Berry, it's Whitner all over again.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by kingJofNYC
    But Barron won't be the BPA at ten. I guess BPA depends on who you ask, but if we take a safety at 10 and his name isn't Eric Berry, it's Whitner all over again.

    That makes zero sense and Barron was a very good player at Alabama and way better than Whitner

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor
    That makes zero sense and Barron was a very good player at Alabama and way better than Whitner
    It makes plenty of sense. Mark Barron is not a top ten talent, I watched Bama plenty. He's not an impact safety like Eric Berry, which is the kind of talent you would look for if you were taking a safety that high.

    Not much else to discuss really, you might like him as a top ten talent but I don't. Question, who was the last top ten player at safety to leave a lasting impact on the game?
    Last edited by kingJofNYC; 04-19-2012 at 11:15 PM.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Floyd
    Keuchley
    Kirkpatrick

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Barron is NOT one of the best players in the draft.

    In other drafts he'd be a 2nd rounder.

    If we take him at No10, it will be the biggest reach of the draft and a ludicrous decision to the point where we can expect a new HC/GM in 2013.

    We need an impact player, not an over rated one.

    Mind you this is from the idiot Maycock who doesn't have Coples in his Top50. Lets hope Buddy isn't so stupid.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksheep71
    Barron is NOT one of the best players in the draft.

    In other drafts he'd be a 2nd rounder.

    If we take him at No10, it will be the biggest reach of the draft and a ludicrous decision to the point where we can expect a new HC/GM in 2013.

    We need an impact player, not an over rated one.

    Mind you this is from the idiot Maycock who doesn't have Coples in his Top50. Lets hope Buddy isn't so stupid.
    According to who? The draftnik websites? I wanna make this clear that im not taking a shot at you necessarily but I love how everyone knows more than every front office. I guess you guys better tell Buffalo, Dallas, The Jets, and the Chargers who have scouted players for years that Barron isn't a1st round talent because you looked at some websites and they said he's a late 1st or early 2nd rd type. People need to stop acting like they know more than the people who do their job.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132
    Floyd
    Keuchley
    Kirkpatrick
    This is what Im hoping for. I want one of these 3 OR Gimore or if Kalil/Blackmon fall. But NO REIFF

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo1105
    According to who? The draftnik websites? I wanna make this clear that im not taking a shot at you necessarily but I love how everyone knows more than every front office. I guess you guys better tell Buffalo, Dallas, The Jets, and the Chargers who have scouted players for years that Barron isn't a1st round talent because you looked at some websites and they said he's a late 1st or early 2nd rd type. People need to stop acting like they know more than the people who do their job.
    No but its an exceptionally weak class at safety which is why he's been marked up so high.

    Barron the best player available at No10? Don't make me laugh. If I was picking at No23, I might consider him, but he's no Berry, Earl Thomas or Polamalu and these are the only types of safeties you spend a top 20 pick on.

    Look at how well spending a previous Top10 pick on a safety did us.

    And we don't have a yawning gap at S either - we've got Wilson and Bryd as well as Searcy. By all means spending a R3 or R4 on a Safety, but a Top10? If we do, it explains why we miss the playoffs every year.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    When you talk about the draft overall, Barron is actually one of the most complete prospects coming out.

    He does everything well and shows not much in the way of weaknesses. He can cover and he comes downhill to tackle.

    Putting aside how good of a football player he is, he's 6'1 213 pounds. Which means he can be used as a OLB and a fast OLB too as he ran a 4.5 40 at his pro day.

    The added bonus with Barron is also his almost 34" arms that will help him cover big TEs. He also has 9 1/2 " hands which will help him control TEs off the LoS.

    Lastly, Barron started and was productive at Alabama for 3 years. That is a huge deal for Nix. If you want a can't miss prospect, Barron fits for sure. Not flashy but the kind of guy who would bring an attitude to our defense.

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    Re: "Mark Barron and Kuechly are logical picks for Buffalo"-Mayock

    Quote Originally Posted by kingJofNYC
    It makes plenty of sense. Mark Barron is not a top ten talent, I watched Bama plenty. He's not an impact safety like Eric Berry, which is the kind of talent you would look for if you were taking a safety that high.

    Not much else to discuss really, you might like him as a top ten talent but I don't. Question, who was the last top ten player at safety to leave a lasting impact on the game?
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