http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/201...ds-2-3-grades/
Fair warning I gave Glenn an A+ and Graham a F.
http://www.buffalobillsdraft.com/201...ds-2-3-grades/
Fair warning I gave Glenn an A+ and Graham a F.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Lecter
danke
Oh no!...We suck again!
I am more interested in your grades from previous drafts
Why do you think the Bills traded up for a player you think could only be drafted with a failure of judgement (hence, an "F")? Do you consider them only semi-intelligent?
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Sorry. You're incorrect. Just because Graham wasn't projected by ESPN and NFL Network as a 3rd rd pick, doesn't mean he sucks.
Do some research online and you'll see plenty of scouts and analysts are stating that this guy needs some polishing, however has the potential to be a very solid #2 down the line.
Could the guy end up sucking? sure...so could Gilmore AND Glenn...
The last time the Bills made the playoffs was 1999.
Heart ruling head perhaps?
I'm not so sure that you should be giving an 'F' to someone yet tbh.
I'd also say that it would seem that the 'wtf' moments, in later rounds, haven't worked out so bad. Jairus Byrd anyone?
I don't know if you've watched the Nix/Gailey Day 2 wrap up, but if you do, or have done, how do you feel about it in the light of their comments?
Positionally, we have done well, in respect of addressing needs, while also getting players we wanted, it seems to me. As always, the success of the draft will have to play itself out on the field, but from the pov of dotting I's and crossing T's in our positional needs, so far the job done looks good.
Re: Round 2 and 3 Grades
See you in 3 year with grades that matter.
Wow... LOTS of crappy grades for round 3
In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.
Just go away...
What is wrong with DBs analysis? He actually puts a lot of work into it unlike most of you bums!!!
DB why do you think the Bills traded up for graham? Is it possible he was more highly touted than expected? I don't care that they gave up a seventh.
I have to agree with that. What happened to "We can get our Stevie Johnson in the 6th or 7th round" that Nix was touting during pressers? Not that I think like you do as far as Graham's talent level. I'm no scout. I'm going purely on surface representation.The Bills panicked in the 3rd. That's what it looked like to me. No one even touched a receiver for the next 14 picks when Sanu eventually came off the board. The Bills could have taken Graham at 71 and it wouldn't have cost them a draft pick. That's my point. Nix went against his own philosophy for this receiver, that's why it gets an F from me. I sure hope that receiver turns out to be worth it. JMO
Well you never had Graham listed high so you stayed true to your scouting
Lots of others thought Graham was a 3rd rd prospect.
Last edited by ddaryl; 04-28-2012 at 08:03 AM.
He is full speed immediately after he receives the kickoff and I think he has value there, but as a receiver, I'm skeptical. It looked too easy to bump him off his route. Maybe he's thinking he's at a track meet and doesn't expect the contact. I think he can get open and I like his quicks, but he has to get a bit stronger and more physical to survive in the NFL.
Graham may not be a big name, but he is the type of receiver the Bills need. He has decent size and he's very fast. He will stretch the field and keep defenses honest. He's raw, but has a big upside.
Only time will tell, though, whether he is the actual receiver the Bills have lacked, or just the type.
Last edited by Jan Reimers; 04-28-2012 at 08:13 AM.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Indeed bring them to me in PDF with me breakfast.
Cheeves fetch my slippers.
Indeed.
Hated by the stupid..
Loved by their moms.
McKelvin lost his job twice in this draft.
Guys look Im not going to respond to each one of you because its the same arguments from the other thread that I've already explained.
The grade is based on the rankings, and to some degree team need. For Graham, we had him ranked well down the WR rankings and that includes below another few slot options (Wright, Adams, Hilton, etc.). We had him as undraftable because while he's a solid return man he is very limited as a WR with his inconsistent hands, poor routes, and low football IQ. His speed is phenomenal but fast guys aren't the end all be all, just ask the Raiders.
Can Graham develop into a Lee Evans type? Sure, maybe, but I don't see it. He struggles to get off press coverage (8 bench reps), isn't a great route runner, and doesn't track the ball like Lee did. He's a Roscoe replacement and given our other options he was not my first choice.
And that in the end is the point, this is my grade, off my board for every team. Could I miss on all 750 of them? Yup, and Ill admit when they prove it or in 5 years when I do the re-eval. However any analyst, scout, or draft basement guy worth his salt will tell you that if you don't trust or believe in your board you have no reason to be doing this.
If you disagree that's fine, I completely understand, but at least try and understand why the grade is where it is. Also keep in mind that one grade or one pick does not kill a whole draft. The Bills have had three selections of the nine total they have. One solid pick, one great pick, and one poor pick (based on my eval), that's a strong start. Today and tomorrow are the days we finish up strong with our last 6 picks and our UDFA haul.
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