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  • User Manuel
    The Artist formerly Known as Lawesome97
    • Nov 2003
    • 2662
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    Belichek and Neglect

    One of the most interesting things to come out of that game, non-Bills related column, is that Belichek allowed Amaendola to return to the game. It seems to be a classic win the battle, lose the war type of move. It was clear, justwatching him walk, that Amaendola had significantly injured his groin. It also seems likely that he was treated and likely shot up and played a stupendous 2nd half, but isn't one of Belichek's jobs to do whats right long and short term for the team? I get it, likely no Amaendola = no win against the Bills, their WR situation is a debacle outside of Edelman, but I am betting that he struggles mightily with this all year and with his history maybe doesnt make it. I don't think that team has any real chance without him long term this season.

    Is a week one win really worth that sort of risk? Especially for a guy with arguably the most job security in the league?
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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101255
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    Re: Belichek and Neglect

    Well first, is amendola questionable or out for tomorrow? If not, then there is no problem here.

    Second, is this surprising? Belicheck is the kind of douche who will do whatever it takes to win, and if he's winning, he'll do whatever it takes to run up the score. That's why he got caught cheating and that's why Gronk is on the sidelines in sweats instead of on the field in pads.
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    • OLDSRIP
      Registered User
      • Dec 2008
      • 577
      #3
      Re: Belichek and Neglect

      Originally posted by User Manuel View Post
      One of the most interesting things to come out of that game, non-Bills related column, is that Belichek allowed Amaendola to return to the game. It seems to be a classic win the battle, lose the war type of move. It was clear, justwatching him walk, that Amaendola had significantly injured his groin. It also seems likely that he was treated and likely shot up and played a stupendous 2nd half, but isn't one of Belichek's jobs to do whats right long and short term for the team? I get it, likely no Amaendola = no win against the Bills, their WR situation is a debacle outside of Edelman, but I am betting that he struggles mightily with this all year and with his history maybe doesnt make it. I don't think that team has any real chance without him long term this season.

      Is a week one win really worth that sort of risk? Especially for a guy with arguably the most job security in the league?

      That's a good question. It's like the Shanahan/Griffen situation in last years playoffs. As a coach that must be a tough call.
      Without knowing what the player and doctors on the sideline are telling the coach it's hard to place blame.
      But Billy boy seems likely to be the last guy to care about someone else's health.

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      • GingerP
        Registered User
        • Aug 2012
        • 1717
        #4
        Re: Belichek and Neglect

        I think most coaches would throw the guy out there. The pressure to win in the league is enough they would push it as far as they can.

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        • better days
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 22028
          #5
          Re: Belichek and Neglect

          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
          Well first, is amendola questionable or out for tomorrow? If not, then there is no problem here.

          Second, is this surprising? Belicheck is the kind of douche who will do whatever it takes to win, and if he's winning, he'll do whatever it takes to run up the score. That's why he got caught cheating and that's why Gronk is on the sidelines in sweats instead of on the field in pads.
          The reports are Amendola will not play against the Jets on Thursday.

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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525
            #6
            Re: Belichek and Neglect

            belichik just hasn't to kind of coach for the first 3-4 weeks of the season. then they have the film and then they miraculously start winning by bigger spreads and win with no bodies at the helm.

            of course he's going to scrap to win in weeks 1-4 without regard to player safety.
            1. he's a douchebag of epic proportions
            2. once they have the film and tendencies, they route people regularly.

            we always predict his demise is coming and it never does. and that in itself is a reason to question how "legit" he's been over 10 years. some really great football minds with some really great talent haven't done what he's done. is it because he's a genius or he's doing others don't.
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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166
              #7
              Re: Belichek and Neglect

              The Pats have a great chance of being 8-8 or 9-7 this season. In any other division their chances of winning the division are fair at best., slim to nil in the AFC N, S, and W, and the NFC N, S, and W. In the NFCE he might have a shot at winning the division.

              Once again Belichick's greatness is aided by what figures to be the weakest other three teams in any division unless Miami turns into something. Both us and the Jets have numerous terminal weaknesses.
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              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • Novacane
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 42355
                #8
                Re: Belichek and Neglect

                Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
                belichik just hasn't to kind of coach for the first 3-4 weeks of the season. then they have the film and then they miraculously start winning by bigger spreads and win with no bodies at the helm.

                of course he's going to scrap to win in weeks 1-4 without regard to player safety.
                1. he's a douchebag of epic proportions
                2. once they have the film and tendencies, they route people regularly.

                we always predict his demise is coming and it never does. and that in itself is a reason to question how "legit" he's been over 10 years. some really great football minds with some really great talent haven't done what he's done. is it because he's a genius or he's doing others don't.

                It's because he lucked into one of the best QB to ever play the game. BB is a good coach. He's not the genius people make him out to be.
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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303
                  #9
                  Re: Belichek and Neglect

                  Originally posted by Novacane View Post
                  It's because he lucked into one of the best QB to ever play the game. BB is a good coach. He's not the genius people make him out to be.
                  People don't give him enough credit.

                  He is meticulous to the point of absurd. Analyzes everything. Doesn't care about personalities or league cred. If you don't buy into what he's doing or show decline, he'll show you the door. From Kosar in Cleveland to name a Patriot. His system works continuously regardless of who he has running it. Cleveland was an 11-5 team with a dominant defense in 94 with Vinny Testaverde at QB. The Pats were a tough team with Matt Cassel running it.

                  Does having Brady help? Absolutely.
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                  • mayotm
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2333
                    #10
                    Re: Belichek and Neglect

                    Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                    People don't give him enough credit.

                    He is meticulous to the point of absurd. Analyzes everything. Doesn't care about personalities or league cred. If you don't buy into what he's doing or show decline, he'll show you the door. From Kosar in Cleveland to name a Patriot. His system works continuously regardless of who he has running it. Cleveland was an 11-5 team with a dominant defense in 94 with Vinny Testaverde at QB. The Pats were a tough team with Matt Cassel running it.

                    Does having Brady help? Absolutely.
                    He gets more than enough credit.

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                    • DynaPaul
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 7540
                      #11
                      Re: Belichek and Neglect

                      You're buying into the legend too much Mr. Pink.

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                      • trapezeus
                        Legendary Zoner
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 19525
                        #12
                        Re: Belichek and Neglect

                        Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                        People don't give him enough credit.

                        He is meticulous to the point of absurd. Analyzes everything. Doesn't care about personalities or league cred. If you don't buy into what he's doing or show decline, he'll show you the door. From Kosar in Cleveland to name a Patriot. His system works continuously regardless of who he has running it. Cleveland was an 11-5 team with a dominant defense in 94 with Vinny Testaverde at QB. The Pats were a tough team with Matt Cassel running it.

                        Does having Brady help? Absolutely.
                        i don't buy it for a second that he's more detailed oriented than other successful coaches to the point that he can not be beat at home. and that it's his way or the high way. there are a lot of difficult personalities at the top of food chains and simply being one doesn't guarantee you success.

                        if he is reviewing stuff at the same level as his peers (who are all known to be work aholics) and other great/legendary coaches in a time without Free Agency and locked in rosters and less disparity had a hard time at putting the same numbers together, is there really that much room to be that much further ahead of people?

                        He hasn't installed an offense or defense that has never been seen before. they use absolute nobodies and rarely have a drop off in play.

                        If he would have just retired at 2006-07, people would be able to say. "hell of run" and we'd have no idea about the tapes. Something isn't right and its easier to buy that he's doing something very wrong than it is to credit him as being an incredible genius.

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                        • Beebe's Kid
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 3134
                          #13
                          Re: Belichek and Neglect

                          Belichek is far and away the best coach I have ever witnessed. That goes for any sport.

                          The legend isn't overrated.

                          He will take any win at any cost. I bet if it were Brady, things would have been different, but that is about it.

                          His system is dominant and dynamic. It sucks having to be in the same division as him, especially when we have had coaches that were getting their last shot at an HC position.

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                          • trapezeus
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 19525
                            #14
                            Re: Belichek and Neglect

                            yet he was one of the worst coaches in cleveland.

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                            • coastal
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 15513
                              #15
                              Re: Belichek and Neglect

                              Note to world.

                              belicheat is not a genius.

                              hes a cheater that is riding the coat tails of Tom Brady into the HOF.
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