We lost Byrd, Carrington, Chandler, Kolb
Added Rivers, Graham and Williams
Are we adding a TE BETTER than Chandler? Don't see it
Are we adding a DL BETTER than Carrington? Don't see it
Byrd speaks for itself and only remaining QB that's worth anything is Vick
We are much much worse than before March 11th.
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The Bills lost Chandler? Who did he sign with?Originally Posted by Mahdi
When did we lose Chandler and Carrington? Somebody sign those guys behind my back. And Kolb...we never had him in the first place. He failed his physical is what I heard as well.
Oh, the pain and chagrin of it all. Day two, and the roster should be set dammit.
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are we worse without Kolb even though he wasn't really here last year? On the flipside are better with Caussin now when we had Caussin (who didn't play) last year.
Mace (03-13-2014)
I don't see some as huge gains, but some I see as small gains. Rivers is a decent run-down LB. Better than Moats should he leave. We need help against the run. Not a bad situational guy to have. Graham is better than any 3rd CB we have, so I'm good there. I do not like Williams or Legursky. Push. Carrington? How good was he, exactly? I really liked his potential going into last year, but he was hurt all year, so we really have zero idea as to how well he may have played throughout the year. Having said that, I cannot make an educated guess without facts and data. Chandler is still out there. We may still re-sign him. We may also feel Moeaki is the better talent. Again, I don't know how he's healed either, so I can't say. Still, Chandler is a nice TE to have in the rotation and I wouldn't mind keeping him. I also don't feel he's much above an average TE. Kolb never played a down last year and may never play another. It's as if he never happened here. Push. Byrd? Huge loss. Production speaks for itself. I liked what Aaron Williams did as FS in Byrd's absence and I think Williams played better at FS than he did at SS. Having said that, I am under no illusion that Williams will easily fill Byrd's shoes. Byrd is a great FS.
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better days (03-13-2014)
yay, another thread about FA failure.
better days (03-13-2014),chernobylwraiths (03-13-2014),Mace (03-13-2014),tampabay25690 (03-13-2014)
We have a huge hole at TE.
Carrington might have been injured but he was coming on very strong with Pettine. Our DL rotation suffered badly down the stretch which is one reason why we struggled against the run so much.
Kolb was a safety net that was supposed to win games in the event EJ went down. Are we happy with our current QBS?
And again, Byrd.
coastal (03-13-2014)
What else is there to discuss? Our massive successes?
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Thats not my point
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...27-Two-days-in
He was a beast with his 6 tackles in 9 games.
I didnt think he played very well last year. He was never consistant in his 4 years here and was over rated by the fans.
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Bert102176 (03-13-2014),Mike (03-18-2014),Mr. Pink (03-13-2014),Thurmal (03-13-2014)
I agree with this. Carrington was useless outside of FG block units. Don't get why some people are enamored with him.
The loss of Byrd is huge though as there is really no way to replace him with someone better.
Losing a top end player and not attempting to sign a top end player is gonna automatically make any team worse, by default.
Bert102176 (03-13-2014),Mike (03-18-2014),Thurmal (03-13-2014)
Monday at 4:00 pm.
Carrington never played a game under Pettine.
The Bills struggled against the run, because Pettine went all in on the pass rush with the DL & the Bills didn't have the LB's to fill the gaps.
I think under Schwartz this year, & with some LB additions to the roster the Bills will play the run much better.
54 million for Byrd? No...
Carrington didn't play a down last year
Kolb's career is over
Chandler is a back up. has the dropsies too. He's a stiff....
Rivers provides depth after Moats= Upgrade
Graham provides secondary depth and is a very good special teamer (made pro bowl for special teams)=Upgrade for Special teams
Williams is a huge upgrade over Legursky and that train wreck Colin Brown=Upgrade
Stop whining and know your football dummy
Our draft picks this year suck, too.
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Just to clear things up - I mentioned Carrington being hurt all year. I did not mean it as in all year, rather most of the year, but figured everybody knew that. There have been some posts since stating that he did not play at all and this is not true. He was injured in week 3, so he did start 3 games. I don't remember at what point in the game he was hurt.
Lets just cancel the draft and book a charter to the wailing wall.
pmoon6 (03-14-2014)
Blame the FO for failing, not the people making the threads.
Bert102176 (03-13-2014)
As far as Byrd goes, it's not your money. If we don't pay $54 million for Byrd, fine, but show me how that money is being used to make the team better. Right now, it's not, and if history is any indication, it won't be.
And I've never been a big Chandler fan, but who do we have that's equal or better? Once again, no one.
So, Chandler may not be all that great and Byrd may be too expensive, but at the moment, we have no one equal or better. We are worse off at two positions on a team that already lacked talent.
imbondz (03-13-2014)
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