There's only one Bob Gibson or Ferguson Jenkins for every ten truly great Pitchers like Warren Spahn, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Cy Young, Sandy Koufax, Lefty Grove, Christie Matthewson, Carl Hubbell... I could go on for days. Any of those pitchers would have dominated in the Negro Leagues.
The pitching in the American and National Leagues was far better, regardless of race.
By the way, Mays faced pitchers in an integrated National League, so that argument is B U L L S H I T.
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There's absolutely aero evidence to suggest that. This isn't football. We're not talking about Quarterbacks.
Are you suggesting that happens today? Because that's nonsense, and there is still roughly the same percentage of black pitchers.
If you think that's going on, you don't know jack **** about baseball.
Pitchers are gold. If you're from Mars and can snap off a splitter or throw gas, you're pitching.
What you and others are trying to do is make racist comments. You assume that because African Americans make better cornerbacks or shooting guards, that they naturally make better pitchers. Absolute nonsense.
Besides, pitching isn't about intelligence. It's about arm talent. Catchers call most pitches, and it's been that way forever. You simply pulled that out of your ass because it fits some asinine liberal narrative.
Last edited by WagonCircler; 04-27-2014 at 07:19 PM.
pmoon6 (04-28-2014),TacklingDummy (05-01-2014)
Blondie (04-27-2014)
I love it when WC gets all pissy and **** over what was a nice discussion about something.
But we all know Coastal is the biggest ******* on these boards.
Originally Posted by mysticsoto
How about balls bouncing over the fence were considered home runs until 1930?
TacklingDummy (05-01-2014)
Blondie (04-27-2014),Dr. Lecter (04-27-2014)
The funny part is that I am not even saying he is not the best - just that it might not be as cut and dried as WC is saying it is
This thread sucks.
Blondie (04-27-2014)
The Babe hit the HR's with a mush ball. Today's baseball is made to fly.
Both players were great I'd add Mickey and Henry to the discussion but the Bambino stands alone.
The home run's place in baseball changed dramatically when the live-ball era began after World War I. First, the materials and manufacturing processes improved significantly, making the now-mass-produced, cork-centered ball somewhat more lively. Batters such as Babe Ruth and Rogers Hornsby took full advantage of rules changes that were instituted during the 1920s, particularly prohibition of the spitball, and the requirement that balls be replaced when worn or dirty. These changes resulted in the baseball being easier to see and hit, and easier to hit out of park. Meanwhile, as the game's popularity boomed, more outfield seating was built, shrinking the size of the outfield and increasing the chances of a long fly ball resulting in a home run. The teams with the sluggers, typified by the New York Yankees, became the championship teams, and other teams had to change their focus from the "inside game" to the "power game" in order to keep up.
Prior to 1931, a ball that bounced over an outfield fence during a major league game was considered a home run. The rule was changed to require the ball to clear the fence on the fly, and balls that reached the seats on a bounce became ground rule doubles in most parks. A carryover of the old rule is that if a player deflects a ball over the outfield fence without it touching the ground, it is a home run.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_run
babe ruth? willie mays?
gimme ty cobb. all day. every day.