Jon Bon Jovi...More determined than Ever

[BertSquirtgum]

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I hope jonbovi crashes his car over a bridge.

[BertSquirtgum]

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I hate bon jovi so much. I wouldn't care if he hit a patch of ice and drove over a high bridge. Why does this douche bag think he's Canadian now? I hope the Donald punches him in the throat.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jon-bon-jovi-buffalo-bills-2014-4

[chris66]

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Even using the "reasonable standard" approach in the states you mention Better Days example of the $50 Beemer wouldn't pass the smell test. You can't just make the value up from whole cloth. RI changed to straight book value because so many of the bill of sales were bogus. You're right registry's find a way to screw you on fees.

yeah they do especially here in RI. Way too many backdoor fees

[Historian]

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Lots of Land by the Falls.

Lots of buried chemicals as well!

[stuckincincy]

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Lots of buried chemicals as well!

Love Canal Stadium..is that too risque?

[BertSquirtgum]

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Lots of buried chemicals as well!

There truly is. We dug up barrels when working on a water line right by Niagara University.

[BertSquirtgum]

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roosevelt ave

[better days]

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There truly is. We dug up barrels when working on a water line right by Niagara University.

The people responsible for that should have spent the rest of their lives in prison.

[stuckincincy]

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The people responsible for that should have spent the rest of their lives in prison.

And how about the thousands of workers in those industries who took the money the businesses provided to them, raised their kids on it, bought products, stoked the economy, knowing how their personal bread was buttered? Lock all those folks up, too? Those folks werne't stupid. They knew and participated - willingly, for the coin.

[better days]

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And how about the thousands of workers in those industries who took the money the businesses provided to them, raised their kids on it, bought products, stoked the economy, knowing how their personal bread was buttered? Lock all those folks up, too? Those folks werne't stupid. They knew and participated - willingly, for the coin.

Even if true which I doubt, those people did not make the decisions.

Crap flows down hill. Yes lower level employees that knew, should also have received jail time as well, the people that made the decisions to do that should have been locked up for life.

[Woodman]

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just say no to Bon Jovi.

[Fletch]

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What does fair market value have to do with anything?

You can sell your property for whatever you want, to whoever you want.

And Bids are not sealed to the person that is doing the selling, that is just STUPID.

Not true in this case. The NFL's other 31 owners must approve the sale and if you don't think that the viability of a region, particularly contrasted with a much more viable potential region, is a factor, guess again. That approval doesn't have to have anything at all to do with the price.

Right now my money goes on a Toronto/Ontario/Canadian interest buying the team, moving it to "just over the border," Hamilton or whatever, naming it after Ontario, Toronto, Hamilton, St. Catherines, or even quite possibly Niagara Falls, moving it away from lake effect snow by crossing to the westward side, and hoping that enough interest in WNY still exists to retain a good portion of the fan base.

Toronto is one of the world's largest financial centers, clearly has the corporate as well as personal (PSL) money amongst its fanbase, and again, it would check the "international" box on the NFL's list of goals and instantly create a whole new TV market, much bigger than any in any single city in the U.S. would due to the notion that it would be Canada's only NFL team.

I also expect that no-move clause to be bought out for something significantly less after some legal strong-arming by the new or potential new owners, and for the county to "take something rather than nothing after a few years" while pitching it to us as "the best thing." They'll probably cry over the demolition costs for Rich etc.

If there's one thing we know about contracts, of all sorts, as they relate to the NFL, they're hardly if ever in stone and the NFL and its interests/owners, etc., have ways of getting their way.

[better days]

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Not true in this case. The NFL's other 31 owners must approve the sale and if you don't think that the viability of a region, particularly contrasted with a much more viable potential region, is a factor, guess again. That approval doesn't have to have anything at all to do with the price.

Right now my money goes on a Toronto/Ontario/Canadian interest buying the team, moving it to "just over the border," Hamilton or whatever, naming it after Ontario, Toronto, Hamilton, or even quite possibly Niagara Falls, moving it away from lake effect snow by crossing to the westward side, and hoping that enough interest in WNY still exists to retain a good portion of the fan base.

Toronto is one of the world's largest financial centers, clearly has the corporate as well as personal (PSL) money amongst its fanbase, and again, it would check the "international" box on the NFL's list of goals and instantly create a whole new TV market, much bigger than any in any single city in the U.S. would due to the notion that it would be Canada's only NFL team.

I also expect that no-move clause to be bought out for something significantly less after some legal strong-arming by the new or potential new owners, and for the county to "take something rather than nothing after a few years" while pitching it to us as "the best thing." They'll probably cry over the demolition costs for Rich etc.

If there's one thing we know about contracts, of all sorts, as they relate to the NFL, they're hardly if ever in stone and the NFL and its interests/owners, etc., have ways of getting their way.

OK, we will see who is right about this. People like you that think the Bills are moving is a foregone conclusion, or people like me that think there is no way the Bills move.

We won't have to wait too much longer to see what happens.

I look forward to the day I no longer have to read speculation about the Bills moving. And that day will be here soon.

[GingerP]

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I look forward to the day I no longer have to read speculation about the Bills moving. And that day will be here soon.

The thing that will keep the Bills here long-term is a new stadium. Without a new stadium, the team will be moved when the lease allows it, and you will keep hearing the rumors. They key will be finding a local owner who can work with the correct government entities to secure an agreement on a new stadium.

[better days]

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The thing that will keep the Bills here long-term is a new stadium. Without a new stadium, the team will be moved when the lease allows it, and you will keep hearing the rumors. They key will be finding a local owner who can work with the correct government entities to secure an agreement on a new stadium.

When the new owner is named & it is known he has ties to Buffalo, which he will, all talk about the Bills moving can & should end.

A new stadium is a forgone conclusion. It is just a question of where it goes & if it will have a roof or not.