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  • Mace
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    • Mar 2013
    • 20315

    #31
    Re: gameballs and goats

    Originally posted by Night Train View Post
    Politely disagree. Chargers RB Brown has 31 carries for 62 yards. Against Pettine, it would have been 162 yards, minimum. Too much all or nothing with no run D. Blitz and pray D only works for short spurts.
    Politely also disagree, Rivers would have been laying looking up at the sky more often, been more afraid of lingering in the pocket and certainly not thought to flee the pocket to show his running skills. Schwartz does not aggressively blitz ever.

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    • elltrain22
      Registered User
      • Sep 2003
      • 4281

      #32
      Re: gameballs and goats

      Originally posted by Night Train View Post
      Politely disagree. Chargers RB Brown has 31 carries for 62 yards. Against Pettine, it would have been 162 yards, minimum. Too much all or nothing with no run D. Blitz and pray D only works for short spurts.
      Good point. Very debatable, but I think our defensive personal this year, as opposed to last year, is better equipped to stop the run.
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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71580

        #33
        Re: gameballs and goats

        Originally posted by elltrain22 View Post
        Swartz's def scheme- I miss Pettine
        Giving up big plays today reminded me of last years Pettine D
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        • Woodman
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          • Apr 2014
          • 65977

          #34
          Re: gameballs and goats

          Goat of the game .. The defense we couldn't cover or stop anybody. (3rd down efficiency WTF)

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          • YardRat
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            • Dec 2004
            • 86190

            #35
            Re: gameballs and goats

            The corners really didn't play that badly yesterday, Rivers only completed 8 passes to WR's all day. Two were the 49 yard heaves to Floyd (his only catches, and more likely at least partially the safeties fault for not getting deep to help), and two were the short TD's to Royal (good play design, that's going to happen). By and large, for the most part, the WR's were a non-factor for most of the game. Obviously Schwartz's plan was to take Gates out of the equation, which they did...and that puts CB's in more 1 on 1 with less help from LBers or safeties.

            Just a swing in one or two plays (a non-call on a drive extending penalty, a quicker stop on third and long that was a dump off or scramble, anything at all from the Bills offense) and the outcome could have been very different.
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            • Historian
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              • Dec 2002
              • 61793

              #36
              Re: gameballs and goats

              It looked like last year's defense...stuff them on first, short gain on second....give up third and long.

              And I disagree with the outcome theory, Rat. The score was not indicative of how lopsided the game was.

              The D had to be tired. What was the time of possession number?

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              • Fletch
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                • May 2007
                • 3166

                #37
                Re: gameballs and goats

                Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                I like the way Spiller is running this season, a little bit of Freddie seems to have rubbed off.
                You do? You're satisfied with that?

                He's averaging 4.0 ypc, has no TDs, and the team can't use him on 3rd downs because he sucks on them.

                That's acceptable to you? It's all below average.
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                Post #46

                Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                Originally Posted by pmoon6
                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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                "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                • stuckincincy
                  Buffalo Bills Fan
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 15084

                  #38
                  Re: gameballs and goats

                  Originally posted by Historian View Post
                  It looked like last year's defense...stuff them on first, short gain on second....give up third and long.

                  And I disagree with the outcome theory, Rat. The score was not indicative of how lopsided the game was.

                  The D had to be tired. What was the time of possession number?
                  TOP was fairly even... 31:34 for SD, 28:26 for BUF.

                  BUF had the edge the 4th - 8:28 to 6:32.

                  Lousy 4th qtr possessions for both clubs:

                  BUF: punt, downs, punt, safety, downs.
                  SD: punt, punt, punt, punt, punt.

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                  • casdhf
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 17542

                    #39
                    Re: gameballs and goats

                    It was like watching the hawks/chargers game
                    Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                    cas,

                    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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                    • Fletch
                      Registered User
                      • May 2007
                      • 3166

                      #40
                      Re: gameballs and goats

                      Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                      Well I think it may be time to step back and take out the defense/ST plays that put them over the top (in earlier games) and analyze just what Manuel is giving you (Bills) in a given game. It's like a single TD.
                      It may be too early in the season to talk sense to these guys.

                      Some other interesting info. It was supposed to be our passing game that was going to change our offense this season. For some perspective, everyone here talked about how horrible Cleveland's WRs were, but Hawkins and Austin have more catches and more TDs than all of our WRs combined. Not sure that anyone's realized it, but the only 3 WRs on the team that have even caught a pass are Watkins, Woods, and Williams. Williams hasn't done much of anything.

                      This is not just smacking of a FAIL, it's strongly hinting at an epic fail for Whaley.

                      The team doesn't use Spiller on 3rd downs because they can't, and Jackson's had only three 3rd down carries and is struggling more this season. They put the ball in Manuel's hands on 3rds, which I guess has to be done since Jackson's the only RB capable of doing anything on 3rds and he's not really playing that well, probably with age catching up to him.

                      Watkins is supposed to be able to take any short dunk pass and turn it into 20 yards but he hasn't done anything in two of three games. Williams is supposed to be a force in the red zone but we've been awful in the red zone generally speaking.
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                      Post #46

                      Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                      (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                      Originally Posted by pmoon6
                      The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                      You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                      Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                      The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                      ------

                      "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                      "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                      "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                      Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                      "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                      • Fletch
                        Registered User
                        • May 2007
                        • 3166

                        #41
                        Re: gameballs and goats

                        Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                        Well I think it may be time to step back and take out the defense/ST plays that put them over the top (in earlier games) and analyze just what Manuel is giving you (Bills) in a given game. It's like a single TD.
                        And another reminder that ST TD's don't come often enough to win games. Even when they do come there's no guarantee that they come in a win. Same thing with the defense dropping the ball for the offense in the other teams red zone.

                        Manuel gives us nothing, except a high completion percentage apparently, which by last week's opinated horde we were enlightened was something important. I guess that fact that Manuel doesn't know how to make use of WR's isn't an issue.
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                        Post #46

                        Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                        (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                        Originally Posted by pmoon6
                        The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                        You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                        Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                        The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                        ------

                        "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                        "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                        "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                        Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                        "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                        • YardRat
                          Well, lookie here...
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86190

                          #42
                          Re: gameballs and goats

                          Originally posted by Historian View Post
                          It looked like last year's defense...stuff them on first, short gain on second....give up third and long.

                          And I disagree with the outcome theory, Rat. The score was not indicative of how lopsided the game was.

                          The D had to be tired. What was the time of possession number?
                          Yeah the game was lopsided, but not much different from the opener. Hell, all it takes is a couple of breaks to help determine an outcome.
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                          • YardRat
                            Well, lookie here...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 86190

                            #43
                            Re: gameballs and goats

                            Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                            You do? You're satisfied with that?

                            He's averaging 4.0 ypc, has no TDs, and the team can't use him on 3rd downs because he sucks on them.

                            That's acceptable to you? It's all below average.
                            Quit being an obtuse dumbass. I like the way he is running does not equal I'm satisfied with his production.
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                            • YardRat
                              Well, lookie here...
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 86190

                              #44
                              Re: gameballs and goats

                              Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                              And another reminder that ST TD's don't come often enough to win games. Even when they do come there's no guarantee that they come in a win. Same thing with the defense dropping the ball for the offense in the other teams red zone.

                              Manuel gives us nothing, except a high completion percentage apparently, which by last week's opinated horde we were enlightened was something important. I guess that fact that Manuel doesn't know how to make use of WR's isn't an issue.
                              Rivers completed 8 passes to his receivers, Manuel 7 to his.
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                              • Spartacus
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                                • Mar 2003
                                • 54016

                                #45
                                Re: gameballs and goats

                                Marrone.

                                The first mistake came after the coin toss.

                                The last thing you want to do is take the ball first against the wind with a nervous qb..

                                You're just begging to be losing after the first quarter.
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