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  • justasportsfan
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 71629
    #16
    Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

    Originally posted by Night Train View Post
    The combination of Manuel, bad OL ( especially OG ) play, Bills WR's not getting seperation
    I though our wr got plenty of separation at times especially when we went for it on 4th down. 3 of them were open. Manuel missed all 3 of them.

    Besides, great qb's can hit wr's that arent open.

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    Originally posted by Fletch View Post


    Whaley promised playoffs, not an 8-8 record.
    link?
    sacrifice1
    https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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    • Fletch
      Registered User
      • May 2007
      • 3166
      #17
      Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

      That's irrelevant. Watkins is supposed to be able to catch short passes and turn them into long gains. Manuel's hitting the short stuff just fine. So let's see it. We're not talking about catering to Manuel's weaknesses.

      Here's a little push in the right direction, Watkins' average on short throws is well below 10 yards. That includes throws within 10 yards of the line.

      I'll clarify that for you, he's not doing anything like taking short passes and turning them into long gains like everyone said he could do and like he regularly did at Clemson.

      Here's a link from TOS http://www.buffalobills.com/news/art...1-22c012db2cd7

      Here's a list of links

      Google
      https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Doug+Whaley+playoffs
      Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.


      Don't ask again. Do your own simple googling.
      http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

      Post #46

      Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
      (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
      Originally Posted by pmoon6
      The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

      You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

      Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

      The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
      ------

      "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

      "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

      "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

      Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

      "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71629
        #18
        Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

        Originally posted by Fletch View Post
        That's irrelevant. Watkins is supposed to be able to catch short passes and turn them into long gains. Manuel's hitting the short stuff just fine. So let's see it. We're not talking about catering to Manuel's weaknesses.

        Here's a little push in the right direction, Watkins' average on short throws is well below 10 yards. That includes throws within 10 yards of the line.

        I'll clarify that for you, he's not doing anything like taking short passes and turning them into long gains like everyone said he could do and like he regularly did at Clemson.

        Here's a link from TOS http://www.buffalobills.com/news/art...1-22c012db2cd7

        Here's a list of links

        Google
        https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Doug+Whaley+playoffs
        Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.


        Don't ask again. Do your own simple googling.
        really. I am not surprised that someone who can't figure out that 23 is greater than 20 cannot tell the difference between expecting/planning and promising. Maybe its hard for you to see the difference because planning and promising starts with a P?
        Last edited by justasportsfan; 09-22-2014, 09:48 AM.
        sacrifice1
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        • IlluminatusUIUC
          Registered User
          • Sep 2012
          • 8966
          #19
          Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

          Originally posted by Fletch View Post
          That's irrelevant. Watkins is supposed to be able to catch short passes and turn them into long gains. Manuel's hitting the short stuff just fine. So let's see it. We're not talking about catering to Manuel's weaknesses.
          No he isn't. That's what killed us yesterday, he could even hit short stuff.


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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525
            #20
            Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

            i guess having a rib injury that everyone sees clear as day is a reason they aren't putting him in positions to take more hits. but it isn't a good enough answer for the man behind the curtain under the name of fletch (until he needs his very wide right handle instead).

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            • Buffalogic
              Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
              • Feb 2006
              • 5346
              #21
              Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

              Bills going nowhere if they don't bench this guy. He's just not an NFL talent. I haven't seen a first round QB play so ineptly since Gabbert.

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              • gebobs
                One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                • Sep 2003
                • 11520
                #22
                Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                Not familiar with that, what happened?
                Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
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                • HHURRICANE
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 15490
                  #23
                  Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                  Originally posted by imbondz View Post
                  Our D wasn't the issue yesterday. It was 13-3 at halftime, gave up 9 points in the 2nd half. Big deal. We held them to 22 points, which is plenty enough to beat. Plus if our O kept it closer, the whole dynamic of the game changes
                  Great post.

                  The offense did nothing to change the outcome of this game.

                  Keeping the Chargers to 22 points makes the game winnable. Rivers is a top tier QB.

                  In the first 3 weeks of this year I don't believe any team won a game with only putting 10 points on the board.

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                  • Fletch
                    Registered User
                    • May 2007
                    • 3166
                    #24
                    Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                    Originally posted by gebobs View Post
                    LOL

                    Poor donald. Wasn't even his responsibility.
                    http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                    Post #46

                    Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                    (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                    Originally Posted by pmoon6
                    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                    ------

                    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                    • Swiper
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 33105
                      #25
                      Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                      Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
                      The Chargers D rushed mostly by 4, but they got creative as the game wore on, putting the pressure on EJ. I mentioned before that I saw EJ struggled with 34 defense before. He seemed unable to identify which linebacker was coming, thus adjusting protection and Eric Wood didn't help yesterday.

                      Houston is another 34 defense and Rac (Crennel) is known to run traditional 34. It would be a tough sledding game again, I'm afraid.
                      They rushed 5 sometimes. And were pulling d-line stunts that the Bills seem to struggle with.

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                      • Downinfloflo
                        Victimizing The Victimizer
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 16757
                        #26
                        Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                        The Bills have........

                        Sammy Watkins..

                        Robert Woods...

                        Mike Williams...

                        All wasting away because their QB can not get the ball to them, Or just refuses to throw to them, Because he's lost, And has no trust in his own skill set.

                        All this team really needs is a guy who is not scared to throw to his play makers and let them run around.

                        With this teams RB's and WR's it's such a shame to see it go to waste over the QB situation.
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                        • Swiper
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 33105
                          #27
                          Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                          If the oline doesn't improve, it doesn't matter who they put under center. We are weak in the middle, and teams are going to see that and gameplan for it.
                          Still feeling the loss of Levitre.
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                          • BertSquirtgum
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • May 2009
                            • 13379
                            #28
                            Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                            Originally posted by imbondz View Post
                            Our D wasn't the issue yesterday. It was 13-3 at halftime, gave up 9 points in the 2nd half. Big deal. We held them to 22 points, which is plenty enough to beat. Plus if our O kept it closer, the whole dynamic of the game changes
                            Defense actually held them to 20. Stinky EJ Manuel gave the chargers another 2 points.
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                            • Mace
                              Haha...yeah you think so ?
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 20315
                              #29
                              Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                              I believe part of Marrone's growing aggravation and frustration is that he won't bench Manuel if he needs to, because this is how they developed their project QB and it's on no one but them if it works out poorly. Orton, no matter what you think of him, only becomes a usable option past the bye when the season is already won or lost unless Manuel gets hurt. Marrone is unflinchingly in Manuel's corner even to thinking River's stats were Manuel's because he has this idealized view of his QB and has to because it reflects also on his OC.

                              Had he made a point of it, they could have taken his man, Nassib for better or worse, and is now stuck with what he has. Manuel seems to be echoing what he's told, and if Marrone doubles back on it, he lost whatever Manuel might yet become (and we hope he all does).

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                              • Mr. Pink
                                Peterman Sucks!
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 35303
                                #30
                                Re: Marrone Will Bench Manuel If He Has To

                                The Chargers went into cruise control after the opening drive of the 2nd half. Might be part of the reason they only put up 20 on the D.

                                Even though Donald Brown wasn't working, the run D is actually good here, the Chargers kept doing it because the Bills O never threatened to do anything.

                                Do you really think Donald Brown runs 31 times for 62 yards if the game is in doubt? Absolutely not, Rivers throws the ball some more to whoever he wanted as he had done earlier in the game.
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