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We spent so much to draft Watkins and Ej is making that investment useless.
I can forgive Whaley for missing on Ej but not Watkins. Ej is making the Watkins move look bad. Only way Whaley can save face is to find a qb who can get Watkins the ball NOW.
We spent so much to draft Watkins and Ej is making that investment useless.
I can forgive Whaley for missing on Ej but not Watkins. Ej is making the Watkins move look bad. Only way Whaley can save face is to find a qb who can get Watkins the ball NOW.
Watkins is averaging more yards-per-catch than our RBs and Robert Woods, our slot guy, and he leads Woods only barely. Williams and Chandler are both averaging more.
How many more receptions to you want him to get?
Didn't we hear about how once Watkins got the ball all hell would break loose on offense? How about taking a crack at explaining that?
When we drafted Watkins no one said that he would get most of his yards on downfield catches. Everyone said that he was capable of taking short passes and turning them into gold. We heard this once before about a player from the same college team and same gimmicky offense. His name was Spiller.
Once again too many people bought fools gold.
Watkins will be good, but he won't end up being the best WR in this draft. Given the hype about him coming out that's saying something.
The QB should have less to do with Watkins' performance than any other receiving player on the team.
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Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
EJ's accuracy is just bad. I'm not sure if that can be fixed. Watkins you can see is a beast and had EJ hit him on that deep crosser he would have been gone for another 30 yards.
Our offense just seems like its just waiting to explode but we need a QB who can make the throws.
Watkins is averaging more yards-per-catch than our RBs and Robert Woods, our slot guy, and he leads Woods only barely. Williams and Chandler are both averaging more.
How many more receptions to you want him to get?
Didn't we hear about how once Watkins got the ball all hell would break loose on offense? How about taking a crack at explaining that?
When we drafted Watkins no one said that he would get most of his yards on downfield catches. Everyone said that he was capable of taking short passes and turning them into gold. We heard this once before about a player from the same college team and same gimmicky offense. His name was Spiller.
Once again too many people bought fools gold.
Watkins will be good, but he won't end up being the best WR in this draft. Given the hype about him coming out that's saying something.
The QB should have less to do with Watkins' performance than any other receiving player on the team.
I'm not sure what you are seeing but I see a WR in Watkins who runs very explosive very sharp routes and is very difficult to cover. He had a couple drops yesterday but who cares. That happens.
This kid is the most talented WR in the draft, he just needs someone to get him going on a consistent basis.
EJ's accuracy is just bad. I'm not sure if that can be fixed. Watkins you can see is a beast and had EJ hit him on that deep crosser he would have been gone for another 30 yards.
Our offense just seems like its just waiting to explode but we need a QB who can make the throws.
Aside from inaccuracy, EJ won't throw unless people are really open unless the bills are behind and desperate.
EJ does not trust his receivers and I'm not surprised since he doesn't trust himself.
EJ is more valuable because unless the QB can get the ball to The receiver the receiver is worthless.
I am not worried yet but I wonder if the Goodwin hit got in the head of Watkins and he is more tentative resulting in dropping balls. His hands were glue before the hit. After the hit (which was late in game) he dropped one last week and dropped two more against Houston. Why all of sudden he is dropping balls? I don't blame any receiver being nervous the way EJ exposes his receivers due to poorly thrown balls.
EJ is more valuable because unless the QB can get the ball to The receiver the receiver is worthless.
I am not worried yet but I wonder if the Goodwin hit got in the head of Watkins and he is more tentative resulting in dropping balls. His hands were glue before the hit. After the hit (which was late in game) he dropped one last week and dropped two more against Houston. Why all of sudden he is dropping balls? I don't blame any receiver being nervous the way EJ exposes his receivers due to poorly thrown balls.
A qb is more valuable ,I agree . BUt based on what we spent on Watkins, if the qb sucks, he won't develop.
EJ's play is dismaying. I am sorry to see it. He is such a good guy and works hard, but he's just not getting it done.
Still think Orton is not nearly as good as people on this board think. Things might turn around, but right now, I suspect there will be a new coach and likely a new qb next year.
Personally, I still like Whaley and would give him another year, btw.
The coaching was bad yesterday, but surely average qb play would have likely resulted in a win.
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