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    Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    Zero, nada, zilch, doughnut holes, toilet bowls, thin air and the middle of Cheerios.

    Kind of surprised that one the league's best running games from last year can't punch in a run for a score after four games.

    More than surprised that the Bills did not run the ball more against the Texans. The Bills had the lead, not like they were playing from behind and had to throw, but still chose to put the game in EJ Manuel's hands 44 times.

    That's a head scratching statistic.

    Instead of throwing to Fred Jackson and getting picked off, the Bills could have ran the ball and probably win the game without Watt's huge momentum shifting, game changing play.

    Did Marrone and Hackett intentionally expose EJ Manuel by not running the ball when they should have against the Texans?

    Back to the subject...

    Production is good, but without touchdowns who cares?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...5/fred-jackson

    32 runs, 152 yards, 4.8 yards per carry average, 0 rushing TD's.

    Jackson has 19 receptions for 170 yards and 1 TD.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...203/cj-spiller

    52 runs, 207 yards, 4.0 yards per carry average, 0 rushing TD's.

    Spiller has 10 receptions for 81 yards and 1 TD.

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    Fred Jackson is clearly the more productive running back after 4 games even though his rushing attempts compared to Spiller is 38% Jackson, 62% Spiller.

    The only reason why Jackson's not taking the majority of the carries is because of his age. If he had 62% of the carries, I think Freddy would have a rushing TD by now.

    The first quarter of the season is over.

    If Spiller lays another rushing egg in the next 4 games, I think it's time to give Boobie Dixon the rock.

    I hate to say it, but CJ Spiller has been a huge disappointment and another first round bust of a pick by Buddy The Bills Slayer Nix.

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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    RB's make their hay running in the red zone for the most part TD-wise, and you need an offensive line to score in the red zone.
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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    RB's make their hay running in the red zone for the most part TD-wise, and you need an offensive line to score in the red zone.
    You need a good quarterback to score in the red zone more than a good offensive line.

    Kyle, "Flash," Orton has excellent red zone stats.

    Freddy Jackson has never had a great offensive line to run behind, but he scored a lot of touchdowns on the ground over the years.

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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    You need a good quarterback to score in the red zone more than a good offensive line.

    Kyle, "Flash," Orton has excellent red zone stats.

    Freddy Jackson has never had a great offensive line to run behind, but he scored a lot of touchdowns on the ground over the years.
    What good quarterback has Freddie had the fortune to play with?

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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    What good quarterback has Freddie had the fortune to play with?
    Doughnut holes.

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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    They probably would have had 1 apiece against Houston if Hackett didn't make that unbelievably bad call for a bad quarterback to throw it to a defender.
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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    Fred pretty much scored @Chi in OT. We kicked it on like 1st or 2nd down.

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    Re: Fred Jackson And CJ Spiller Have Zero Rushing Touchdowns After 4 Games

    Neither is running well consistently. Both have had a big run or two to give them good YPCs but as a rule our rushing game is struggling.

    I suspect that there will be an improvement with Orton in there. Whether it's enough to make a difference in the outcomes we'll see.
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