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  • mightysimi
    Buckle me in on the highway of sin
    • Mar 2010
    • 6342

    #16
    Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

    Originally posted by better days View Post
    I think Frank Summers will see playing time because of his blocking ability.
    The danger being tipping your hand as Summers isn't really a threat to run.

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    • Forward_Lateral
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 29897

      #17
      Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

      Originally posted by better days View Post
      Well, the Bills have been trying to pound out 3-4 yards per carry since the first game of the season.

      The problem is they were asking CJ Spiller to do that. CJ is a big play RB, not a run between the tackles RB.
      They've tried doing it when FJ and Boobie are in there. With CJ I'd say 75% of the running plays called have been tosses, sweeps, whatever you wanna call them.

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      • better days
        Registered User
        • Jan 2010
        • 22028

        #18
        Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

        Originally posted by mightysimi View Post
        The danger being tipping your hand as Summers isn't really a threat to run.
        I think Frank can run as well as Boobie, & he has good hands so he could catch a few balls as well.

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        • better days
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 22028

          #19
          Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

          Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
          They've tried doing it when FJ and Boobie are in there. With CJ I'd say 75% of the running plays called have been tosses, sweeps, whatever you wanna call them.
          I would call the play calling a mess, especially run plays.

          I agree most of the plays to CJ were tosses, but we have no idea where the play was supposed to go because a defensive player was in the backfield at about the same time Spiller got the ball.

          The best play Hackett called for Spiller was the last play that CJ had maybe as a Bill.

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          • Fletch
            Registered User
            • May 2007
            • 3166

            #20
            Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
            Unless the Jets get up big early, we're probably going to see a healthy dose of Boobie and Brown.
            Captain Obvious speaks.
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            Post #46

            Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
            (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
            Originally Posted by pmoon6
            The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

            You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

            Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

            The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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            "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

            "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

            "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

            Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

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            • IlluminatusUIUC
              Registered User
              • Sep 2012
              • 8966

              #21
              Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

              Originally posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
              With CJ I'd say 75% of the running plays called have been tosses, sweeps, whatever you wanna call them.
              Originally posted by better days View Post
              I would call the play calling a mess, especially run plays.

              I agree most of the plays to CJ were tosses, but we have no idea where the play was supposed to go because a defensive player was in the backfield at about the same time Spiller got the ball.

              The best play Hackett called for Spiller was the last play that CJ had maybe as a Bill.
              I don't know that we've run a single toss this season. It's been a steady diet of dives, draws, and zone read when Manuel was in.

              And CJ's last run wasn't anything special in the playcall, it was the execution. The defense overcommitted and the left side of our OL had an uncommonly dominant play, so Spiller cut it back and out ran the contain.


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              • Fletch
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 3166

                #22
                Re: Run Less, Pass More Hackett

                Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                I don't know that we've run a single toss this season. It's been a steady diet of dives, draws, and zone read when Manuel was in.

                And CJ's last run wasn't anything special in the playcall, it was the execution. The defense overcommitted and the left side of our OL had an uncommonly dominant play, so Spiller cut it back and out ran the contain.
                That's been the way with quite a few of his longer runs, just great holes and lots of open area. It's gone unnoticed by most people that cite his longer runs that very few have actually been for TDs. With all that speed I would think that it would have been the opposite.

                Same for Watkins to a lesser extent. IMO both players have found out (Spiller's case) and are finding out (Watkins' case) that the speed that they had in college isn't accomplishing nearly as much in the NFL. I expect Watkins to be a good WR, but pretty average as starting WRs go.
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                Post #46

                Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                Originally Posted by pmoon6
                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                ------

                "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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