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  • trapezeus
    Legendary Zoner
    • Oct 2004
    • 19525

    Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

    The Denver Broncos, who moved into the top slot in our Elo ratings last week, widened their advantage over the rest of the league in Week 7. Denver looked domin…


    He the bills odds of winning the division at 10% and making the playoffs at 20%.

    The model picks the bills to win 51% of the time in the simulations over the jets and winning by 1pt.

    The model vs the point spread YTD was 49-50-3 while the straight up winner is 74-31-1. I think that's fairly impressive.
  • MidnightVoice
    Retired (mostly)
    • Mar 2003
    • 10792

    #2
    Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

    The Packers face the Saints in one of Week 8's marquee matchups, pitting two elite QBs having vastly different seasons. Around The NFL picks that winner and the rest of this week's games.


    NFL has 4 picks for the Jets, 1 for us.


    Visit ESPN to view NFL Expert Picks for the current week and season


    ESPN has 8 jets, 5 bills

    So I make the odds 2 to 1 against

    But to play
    that’s the thing
    shut up and deal
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    • Jry44
      Registered User
      • Apr 2013
      • 607

      #3
      Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

      Originally posted by MidnightVoice View Post
      http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...r-picks-week-8

      NFL has 4 picks for the Jets, 1 for us.


      Visit ESPN to view NFL Expert Picks for the current week and season


      ESPN has 8 jets, 5 bills

      So I make the odds 2 to 1 against
      And they were 100% for the Lions and Bears, or very close to it. These guys are no better at making picks than we are.

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      • justasportsfan
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 71606

        #4
        Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

        Bills will beat Sexy Rexy who will be fired on Monday but be our next DC once Schwartz leaves for a HC job next year.
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        • IlluminatusUIUC
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          • Sep 2012
          • 8966

          #5
          Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

          Originally posted by trapezeus View Post
          http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/n...-playoff-odds/

          He the bills odds of winning the division at 10% and making the playoffs at 20%.

          The model picks the bills to win 51% of the time in the simulations over the jets and winning by 1pt.

          The model vs the point spread YTD was 49-50-3 while the straight up winner is 74-31-1. I think that's fairly impressive.
          A 51% chance of winning with a 1 point prediction? That might be the closest thing to a coin flip his system can produce.


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          • trapezeus
            Legendary Zoner
            • Oct 2004
            • 19525

            #6
            Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

            Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
            A 51% chance of winning with a 1 point prediction? That might be the closest thing to a coin flip his system can produce.
            yeah...i like using his model to confirm my gut feeling on a game. and where i differ, i start looking into stats to see what i think is a big driver.

            his model is pretty intriguing though because it takes a teams historic period into account. so an .500 team that's been to the playoffs a few times gets a lot more credit than a hot team above .500 but been on the outside looking in for the last few years.

            it makes sense in the grand scheme of things but it misses a little of the momentum.

            his model had seattle as one of the most sure bet games last week and i thought so as well. i picked them for my pickem pool and am now out. thanks a lot nate silver!

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            • Don't Panic
              All-Pro Zoner
              • Dec 2005
              • 4227

              #7
              Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

              Pickcenter has it at 22-18 and 22-20, both Jets...



              I like the Bills getting 3 in this game. Of course, I'd like 3.5 a lot more!

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              • Fletch
                Registered User
                • May 2007
                • 3166

                #8
                Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                PFT says this;

                Bills at Jets
                MDS’s take: I’ve felt all year that the Jets are a better team than they’re showing on the field, and I think we’re finally going to see them turn in a complete game on Sunday. The Bills’ offense will struggle with the Jets’ defense and the Jets will win a low-scoring game.


                MDS’s pick: Jets 17, Bills 13.


                Florio’s take: The Jets surely won’t finish 1-15. What better way to get a win than against a Bills team that is rattled at the tailback position and generally not a good as its 4-3 record suggests? While Percy Harvin isn’t good enough to turn around a lost season in New York, he’s good enough to make a difference in this one.


                Florio’s pick: Jets 24, Bills 20.

                I don't see Orton having a good game in this one nor do I see our rushing game posting better than an average performance.

                The question is whether our "elite D" and formerly #1 (now #5) rushing D can stop the Jets four-headed rushing attack which just got harder with the addition of Harvin.

                The potential exists for a Jets blowout if we struggle to score again.
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                The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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                "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525

                  #9
                  Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                  you aren't going to like that the jets 4 headed running attack has typically stopped itself. morningweg will call off the dogs and go to his overly complicated offense for no reason.

                  i think the jets are much better than they seem to be. but the jet fans i work with all say the same thing, "if geno has time to throw, he'll eat the bills secondary alive. if he's under any pressure, it's going to be ugly."

                  we've split these games the last couple years, i don't expect any different.

                  this typically is the game that a harvin player has just a spectacular game making the talking heads wonder how such a trade can occur and 4 weeks later we never hear from harvin again.

                  bills win this one, playoff watch is very much alive. lose this one and you can pack it up. 6-8 wins will be the cap.

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                  • better days
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 22028

                    #10
                    Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                    If the Bills win this game, they will have reached the half way point of the season with a winning record.

                    When is the last time that happened?

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                    • Historian
                      2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 61923

                      #11
                      Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                      I'm thinking 33-30 Jets.

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                      • better days
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 22028

                        #12
                        Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                        Originally posted by Historian View Post
                        I'm thinking 33-30 Jets.
                        Seriously? You think the Jets are going to hang 33 points on the Bills?

                        The Jets may win this game, but I would bet the under on your numbers.

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                        • DynaPaul
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                          • Sep 2003
                          • 7540

                          #13
                          Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                          Does the statistical model take biased refereeing into account? For instance, Walt Coleman officiating a Patriots game should automatically add 7 points to their score by default.

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                          • Historian
                            2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
                            • Dec 2002
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                            #14
                            Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                            I do.

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                            • IlluminatusUIUC
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                              • Sep 2012
                              • 8966

                              #15
                              Re: Nate Silver: Week 8 Predictions

                              Originally posted by better days View Post
                              If the Bills win this game, they will have reached the half way point of the season with a winning record.

                              When is the last time that happened?
                              2011


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