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  • djjimkelly
    Registered User
    • Apr 2003
    • 7045
    #1

    herm edwards comment

    i do very much so respect herm edwards opinion and love the way the man carries himself anyway........

    commenting on geno smith i just heard him say 3000 snaps is what u need to evaluate a qb.

    now i know for sure EJ is no where near 3000 snaps at qb.

    my question is this when was the last time we had a QB take 3000 snaps for the buffalo bills
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  • Ginger Vitis
    Registered User
    • Feb 2009
    • 3451
    #2
    Re: herm edwards comment

    3000 snaps is too high.. He is saying you need to give a QB 3 seasons of 16 games played to be able to make a determination

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    • Novacane
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 42348
      #3
      Re: herm edwards comment

      I disagree with Edwards. That's almost 3 full years. You pretty much know after 2 if a guy is ever going to get it.

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      • Fletch
        Registered User
        • May 2007
        • 3166
        #4
        Re: herm edwards comment

        Originally posted by djjimkelly View Post
        i do very much so respect herm edwards opinion and love the way the man carries himself anyway........

        commenting on geno smith i just heard him say 3000 snaps is what u need to evaluate a qb.

        now i know for sure EJ is no where near 3000 snaps at qb.

        my question is this when was the last time we had a QB take 3000 snaps for the buffalo bills
        Roughly 6 seasons?

        Maybe that's why Herm Edwards was 54-74 as a head coach.
        http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

        Post #46

        Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
        (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
        Originally Posted by pmoon6
        The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

        You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

        Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

        The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
        ------

        "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

        "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

        "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

        Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

        "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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        • Fletch
          Registered User
          • May 2007
          • 3166
          #5
          Re: herm edwards comment

          Originally posted by Novacane View Post
          I disagree with Edwards. That's almost 3 full years. You pretty much know after 2 if a guy is ever going to get it.
          Most passes thrown last season in today's era pass silly NFL was 659 by Manning. Last year's team, not QB, but team average was 566. That's about 6 seasons.

          Point being, even more so to your point.
          http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

          Post #46

          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
          Originally Posted by pmoon6
          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
          ------

          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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          • WagonCircler
            Escaped Convict
            • Jul 2002
            • 5876
            #6
            Re: herm edwards comment

            Originally posted by djjimkelly View Post
            i do very much so respect herm edwards opinion and love the way the man carries himself anyway........

            commenting on geno smith i just heard him say 3000 snaps is what u need to evaluate a qb.

            now i know for sure EJ is no where near 3000 snaps at qb.

            my question is this when was the last time we had a QB take 3000 snaps for the buffalo bills
            You pretend not to be, but you're an EJ sycophant.

            Face it, he's done here.
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            • Fletch
              Registered User
              • May 2007
              • 3166
              #7
              Re: herm edwards comment

              Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
              You pretend not to be, but you're an EJ sycophant.

              Face it, he's done here.
              Anyone that knew him at FSU knew that he was a longshot to get and hold a starting spot in the NFL from the get-go.

              Once again, http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/4...-florida-state
              http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

              Post #46

              Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
              (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
              Originally Posted by pmoon6
              The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

              You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

              Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

              The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
              ------

              "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

              "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

              "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

              Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

              "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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              • WagonCircler
                Escaped Convict
                • Jul 2002
                • 5876
                #8
                Re: herm edwards comment

                Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                Anyone that knew him at FSU knew that he was a longshot to get and hold a starting spot in the NFL from the get-go.

                Once again, http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/4...-florida-state
                I've posted that same article about 20 times.

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                • Fletch
                  Registered User
                  • May 2007
                  • 3166
                  #9
                  Re: herm edwards comment

                  Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
                  I've posted that same article about 20 times.
                  Likewise, at least I'd say.

                  So why did the vast majority of posters here ignore it for so long since it went up the morning of draft day?
                  http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                  Post #46

                  Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                  (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                  Originally Posted by pmoon6
                  The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                  You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                  Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                  The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                  ------

                  "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                  "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                  "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                  Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                  "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                  • Mr. Pink
                    Peterman Sucks!
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 35303
                    #10
                    Re: herm edwards comment

                    3000 snaps? 3 seasons?

                    Most of these guys you can tell in a season or less if they're gonna amount to anything or be complete trash.

                    We drafted Akili Smith 2.0 and that was vastly apparent a year ago.
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                    • GingerP
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 1717
                      #11
                      Re: herm edwards comment

                      He said snaps, not passes. That is roughly 3 seasons. So, to answer your question, Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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                      • djjimkelly
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 7045
                        #12
                        Re: herm edwards comment

                        herm said 3000 snaps. not my thought process.

                        i think you can tell in 20 games or so.

                        and i guess im the first EJ sycophant lol

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                        • Fletch
                          Registered User
                          • May 2007
                          • 3166
                          #13
                          Re: herm edwards comment

                          Originally posted by GingerP View Post
                          He said snaps, not passes. That is roughly 3 seasons. So, to answer your question, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
                          I stand corrected.

                          Either way, in any other draft Manuel would have been considered a backup caliber QB prospect.
                          http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                          Post #46

                          Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                          (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                          Originally Posted by pmoon6
                          The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                          You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                          Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                          The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                          ------

                          "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                          "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                          "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                          Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                          "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                          • Fletch
                            Registered User
                            • May 2007
                            • 3166
                            #14
                            Re: herm edwards comment

                            Originally posted by djjimkelly View Post
                            herm said 3000 snaps. not my thought process.

                            i think you can tell in 20 games or so.

                            and i guess im the first EJ sycophant lol
                            In some cases I think you can tell from their collegiate play. Manuel and Edwards, which is where Manuel should have been drafted, where Edwards was taken.
                            http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3

                            Post #46

                            Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm
                            (Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
                            Originally Posted by pmoon6
                            The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

                            You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

                            Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

                            The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
                            ------

                            "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

                            "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

                            "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

                            Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

                            "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley

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                            • mush69
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4202
                              #15
                              Re: herm edwards comment

                              Originally posted by Fletch View Post
                              Likewise, at least I'd say.

                              So why did the vast majority of posters here ignore it for so long since it went up the morning of draft day?
                              Maybe you should post it 2,980 more times!
                              Don't Mistake Lack Of Talent For Genius
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