Whaley and Marrone - Stay the Course

[coastal]

14 going on a probable 15 years of no playoffs points to one obvious conclusion... the Buffalo Bills have had a completely dysfunctional organization. Talented coaches and players have come and gone... and gone on to have the highest level of success working for other teams.

Before the Pegulas start jettisoning talented assets, they would be wise to focus on one thing... fixing this dysfunctional organization. If that isn't step 1, how can they truly be sure they aren't sacking people that can help them achieve a championship. I'm only aware of one major organizational change, but it points to prudent decision making... removing Russ Brandon from football.

My recommendation... hire a President of Football Operations like a Polian or similar and leave Whaley and Marrone in place. Put them in an empowered yet accountable position and allow them to continue what they started. Blowing things up in favor of high-priced, big name hires strikes me as the kind of thing Daniel Snyder would do. It's not time for that. It's time to be prudent and focus 100% focus on building a really good organization.

once that's in place, a proper evaluation of who is going to them achieve their goals can stem from there.

i think we've all seen improvement in this team. Let it continue and invest in it.

[Fletch]

Leaving someone in place as a GM that has made two epic blunders the past two offseasons that is going to cost this team for at least a couple more seasons is hardly a good decision. If he is kept on then don't complain when he performs his encore.

There is no good rationale to leaving Marrone here. While that may not be evident now it will be by the end of December.

[WagonCircler]

1My recommendation... hire a President of Football Operations like a Polian or similar and leave Whaley and Marrone in place..

You hire a President of Football Operations, you make Whaley and Marrone their decision.

[coastal]

You hire a President of Football Operations, you make Whaley and Marrone their decision.

I agree with what you're saying, but to jetison Whaley and Marrone at this point, the new guy would have to have a pretty definitive vision of what he's doing and with whom.

[k-oneputt]

I like the Polian idea.

[justasportsfan]

Polian is up for HOF. He wont take a job this year.

So I would keep Whaley /Marrone for another year to fix this and if they don't ,then we call Polian next year.

[better days]

Well, I have to give Marrone credit for this win against the Jets.

It is evident the players play for him.

But I want to see how the rest of the season goes.

[YardRat]

Whaley stays, there shouldn't even be a question about that.
Marrone is still on trial, let's see how the rest of the season plays out. To a greater extent, the same goes for Hackett.
I would ditch Morris in a heartbeat.

[Mace]

I'm still waiting for Pegula to hire his consultant. It won't be Polian, the game has moved along and he's basking (rightfully so) in his twilight.

[Don't Panic]

Whaley and Marrone (and unfortunately Brandon) will all get another year. After that, all bets are off.

[Fletch]

I'm still waiting for Pegula to hire his consultant. It won't be Polian, the game has moved along and he's basking (rightfully so) in his twilight.

I haven't been following this, has Pegula definitely said he's going to hire a consultant?

If so, he's remiss in not doing so now. Waiting until after the season ends makes no sense.

[YardRat]

Whaley and Marrone (and unfortunately Brandon) will all get another year. After that, all bets are off.

I don't expect Brandon to stick around too long, and he'll leave of his own accord more than likely.

[BillsImpossible]

Whaley stays, there shouldn't even be a question about that.
Marrone is still on trial, let's see how the rest of the season plays out. To a greater extent, the same goes for Hackett.
I would ditch Morris in a heartbeat.

Morris has his hogs playing well in the last 3 games. The O-line has improved, and they showed it a lot last night against a good D.

The Bills have had an opportunity to win just about every game this season.

They are a few very bad calls and a few fluke plays away from being one of the best teams in the league.

Remember how everyone wanted to fire Danny Crossman after last year?

[SquishDaFish]

WOW This is one time I totally agree with you Coastal. The big mistake we always make is lets change coaches and **** every 2-3 years.

[BillsImpossible]

I haven't been following this, has Pegula definitely said he's going to hire a consultant?

If so, he's remiss in not doing so now. Waiting until after the season ends makes no sense.

Ernie Accorsi, Mike Holmgren and RonWolf are candidates to become consultants for the Buffalo Bills.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/12/6964687/buffalo-bills-restructure-pegula-mike-holmgren

[YardRat]

Morris has his hogs playing well in the last 3 games. The O-line has improved, and they showed it a lot last night against a good D.

The Bills have had an opportunity to win just about every game this season.

They are a few very bad calls and a few fluke plays away from being one of the best teams in the league.

Remember how everyone wanted to fire Danny Crossman after last year?

If the offensive line was playing so well the last three games, we'd be talking about being 8-3, not 6-5 and fluke plays away from being 'one of the best'. Position coaches have a lot of say over who starts and who sits...who moves and who doesn't...who stays and who gets cut. Urbik and Pears are on Morris, not Marrone or Hackett. Wood's regression (and to a lesser extent Glenn's) is on Morris, also. Crossman went to Marrone and told him he needed a couple more players, and starters on ST's...and that has worked. Morris already has 'starters', and he's calling who they are and coaching them down.

[YardRat]

Ernie Accorsi, Mike Holmgren and RonWolf are candidates to become consultants for the Buffalo Bills.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/12/6964687/buffalo-bills-restructure-pegula-mike-holmgren

Gawd, please just say NO to Holmgren.

[Mouldsie]

Holmgren did one good thing in Cleveland.... Pat Shurmer



I am 100% against Marrone unless he starts playing more aggressively and creatively. I miss Chan's spread

[Ingtar33]

once upon a time, had i made different career choices i might have been someone looking to be in a position to be hired on as the next top guy around here. of course i'm happy with where i am but part of me still says i could do better then the clowns running this dysfunctional mess.

[YardRat]

once upon a time, had i made different career choices i might have been someone looking to be in a position to be hired on as the next top guy around here. of course i'm happy with where i am but part of me still says i could do better then the clowns running this dysfunctional mess.

We're not looking to replace Dude just yet, and the rest of us disagree this is a dysfunctional mess. Well, except for the Spin Zone...and the main forum...and Spam...and...