Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

[JohnnyGold]

Two things to keep an eye on at practice this week:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11964606/sammy-watkins-buffalo-bills-dealing-hip-injury?ex_cid=espnapi_public

Watkins doesn't sound like he'll be out v. Denver, but may be limited in practice this week.

CJ is eligible to return to practice on Wednesday... will be interesting to see if he is ready to go again. Getting him back for this stretch would be absolutely amazing--cross your fingers!

[YardRat]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Jeezums Christmas, has this guy been 100% healthy for any game this season?

[WagonCircler]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Jeezums Christmas, has this guy been 100% healthy for any game this season?

Yet another reason that you don't spend two #1s and a #4 on one guy.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

I'd claim I was injured too if I have been ineffective for several weeks now.

[Fletch]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/01/sammy-watkins-dealing-with-hip-injury/

I'd claim I was injured too if I have been ineffective for several weeks now.

5 weeks now. But 8 of 12 weeks total while Hogan and Woods have been picking up the slack.

First ribs, then a groin, now a hip. Maybe the CFL would be a better fit.

4 games against the Jets, Minnesota, Miami, and Detroit: 27 catches for 483 yards, 4 TDs and a 17.9 ypr average. Game averages of 7 catches, 121 yards, and 1 TD.

8 other games: 24 catches for 212 yards, 8.8 ypr, 1 TD for game averages of 3 catches for 27 yards and 0 TDs.

I won't bother posting his comps against his rookie peers.

Hopefully he snaps out of this crap and stops getting injured. It's not like he's been taking any more of a beating than any of the other WRs or anything.

Sounds like he's following in Spiller's footsteps on all counts right now though.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Yet another reason that you don't spend two #1s and a #4 on one guy.

Oh come on, you're not being fair when you say the Bills gave up two first round picks.

The Bills gave up next year's 2015 1st and 4th round draft picks to move up in the 1st round. They did draft in the first round, correct?

Looks like the Bills are going to finish no worse than 8-8, which means the Browns will be getting a middle of the first round draft pick at best.

That's the 16th pick in the draft, which I think is well worth giving up to get the kind of talent Sammy Watkins has.

Without Sammy Watkins, the Bills wouldn't be 7-5 right now.

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...th-hip-injury/



5 weeks now. But 8 of 12 weeks total while Hogan and Woods have been picking up the slack.

First ribs, then a groin, now a hip. Maybe the CFL would be a better fit.

4 games against the Jets, Minnesota, Miami, and Detroit: 27 catches for 483 yards, 4 TDs and a 17.9 ypr average. Game averages of 7 catches, 121 yards, and 1 TD.

8 other games: 24 catches for 212 yards, 8.8 ypr, 1 TD for game averages of 3 catches for 27 yards and 0 TDs.

I won't bother posting his comps against his rookie peers.

Hopefully he snaps out of this crap and stops getting injured. It's not like he's been taking any more of a beating than any of the other WRs or anything.

Sounds like he's following in Spiller's footsteps on all counts right now though.

Why are you always so negative?

I swear, even if the Bills won the Super Bowl you'd still post something negative.

'Maybe the CFL would be a better fit.'

Wow, can't believe you said that.

[YardRat]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Part of the reason for his dip in production is teams have probably been game-planning against him specifically, especially since the NE game. (I know for a fact some have, but haven't paid close enough attention in a couple of games to say all definitely have, as opposed to probably). That's also probably part of the reason Woods and Hogan's numbers have gone up. If he truly is injured, that is certainly a factor also. As far as getting beaten on, the only reported injury (as far as I know) that resulted from contact was the ribs.

[WagonCircler]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Oh come on, you're not being fair when you say the Bills gave up two first round picks.

The Bills gave up next year's 2015 1st and 4th round draft picks to move up in the 1st round. They did draft in the first round, correct?.

This is the most ridiculous, insane argument I've ever heard, and I see it here over and over.

Pretend there's a ledger.

On one side, you have the acquisition. Sammy Watkins........................On the other side, the expenditure. 2014 First Round Pick. 2015 First Round Pick. 2015 Fourth Round Pick.

At the beginning of the day, you had "2014 First Round Pick. 2015 First Round Pick. 2015 Fourth Round Pick." in your pocket.

At the end of the day, you no longer had those. But you had Sammy Watkins.

The price to acquire Sammy Watkins was "2014 First Round Pick. 2015 First Round Pick. 2015 Fourth Round Pick."

There's really nothing to argue about here. It's simple math.

By contrast, let's say we had chosen, instead to draft player X, rather than Sammy Watkins.

We would not have needed to spend the 2015 First Round Draft Choice, nor the 2015 Fourth Round Draft Choice.

We would simply have spent our 2014 First Round Draft Choice.

And at the end of the transaction, we would have Player X, plus next year's 2015 1st and 4th round draft picks.

This logic is infallible, airtight, inarguable.

[Fletch]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Why are you always so negative?

I swear, even if the Bills won the Super Bowl you'd still post something negative.

'Maybe the CFL would be a better fit.'

Wow, can't believe you said that.

It's just about all facts.

Which ones bother you?

[Fletch]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

Part of the reason for his dip in production is teams have probably been game-planning against him specifically, especially since the NE game. (I know for a fact some have, but haven't paid close enough attention in a couple of games to say all definitely have, as opposed to probably). That's also probably part of the reason Woods and Hogan's numbers have gone up. If he truly is injured, that is certainly a factor also. As far as getting beaten on, the only reported injury (as far as I know) that resulted from contact was the ribs.

Right, like when Revis and Haden were on him 1-on-1 for most of the game. Not like those guys ever take on the best WRs on other teams or anything.

Oh yeah, what about the other 6 games that he did nothing?

Do you really believe that stuff? Nothing but excuses from you on him. Game planning, then injuries, then double-coverages, then injuries, then poor QB. What did I forget?

You say these things as if you don't watch any other games besides ours and think that these things are unusual in this league.

[Downinfloflo]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

I'd claim I was injured too if I had Kyle Orton and E.J Manuel as my QB.

You're right.

[SquishDaFish]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

They didnt give up a 1st in 2014 they SWAPPED 1sts BIG DIFFERENCE

[Fletch]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

They didnt give up a 1st in 2014 they SWAPPED 1sts BIG DIFFERENCE

So your argument is that they didn't use the 1st that they swapped?

Seriously people.

[Fletch]

Re: Watkins Injured v. Browns/CJ Eligible to return

This is the most ridiculous, insane argument I've ever heard, and I see it here over and over.

Pretend there's a ledger.

On one side, you have the acquisition. Sammy Watkins........................On the other side, the expenditure. 2014 First Round Pick. 2015 First Round Pick. 2015 Fourth Round Pick.

At the beginning of the day, you had "2014 First Round Pick. 2015 First Round Pick. 2015 Fourth Round Pick." in your pocket.

At the end of the day, you no longer had those. But you had Sammy Watkins.

The price to acquire Sammy Watkins was "2014 First Round Pick. 2015 First Round Pick. 2015 Fourth Round Pick."

There's really nothing to argue about here. It's simple math.

By contrast, let's say we had chosen, instead to draft player X, rather than Sammy Watkins.

We would not have needed to spend the 2015 First Round Draft Choice, nor the 2015 Fourth Round Draft Choice.

We would simply have spent our 2014 First Round Draft Choice.

And at the end of the transaction, we would have Player X, plus next year's 2015 1st and 4th round draft picks.

This logic is infallible, airtight, inarguable.

You know, I wouldn't even bother trying to explain it anymore.

Let's just insist that Maybin, Whitner, Spiller, etc. were all free picks that didn't cost us a draft pick.

Maybe we can get a free pick in the 1st round in next year's draft just by showing up to the draft for round 1 too. Same logic.