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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    hmmm.... when I mention previous years, it's "only this year matters." But, when it gives people the answer they're looking for- in this case, that the team will improve- suddenly, looking at prior years is acceptable. Weird how that works.
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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Cody View Post
    Wrong analysis. If WE'RE healthy good luck to them. We've beaten them 2of the last 3 and most definetely should have been 3 for 3.
    Lol. We certainly won't be favored.

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    SO MUCH SUCKING
    You're pathetic. Truly.
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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Even though Allen played like crap for two games this year, with a half healthy defense they win 2 of the 3 losses
    I came.
    I saw.
    I conquered.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    OP is right the team hasn't played well the last month. Rationalize all you want making BS excuses in your heads the team has not played well period.

    And they needed to play well to address what historian is talking about. They didn't. They all too often don't under McDermott along with the coaching blunders that never help.

    A month ago the Bills were in charge of their destiny and now they need to HOPE for a better destiny than they played for.

    Sad...but true.
    Nope.

    Saying that "the team hasn't played well the last month” is not the same as saying.....”....(how) poorly this team has played over the last month.”

    Besides the fact (don’t get your panties in bunch, it's just an expression, not actually a “fact”) that the Bills TEAM has NOT played “poorly” or even “hasn’t played well”.

    They did not play up to their potential, but the team did NOT play either “poorly” or “not well”. Four games, winning two....both of the wins, the opposing team was never really in the game after the 2nd half.

    The two games they DID lose, were the result of a few brain farts by Josh Allen. The Minny game took a perfect storm of a miracle fumble at the goal line, a bad pass in OT, and one of the best catches in the history of the game. That’s the way the ball bounces sometimes in the NFL.

    To whatever degree the team did not play up to their full potential, they STILL want 2-2. THAT is the sign of a very good team.

    And, no, it is a stretch to say that "
    A month ago the Bills were in charge of their destiny and now they need to HOPE for a better destiny than they played for.”


    Nobody in their right mind thought they (or any other team) would go undefeated the rest of the season after week #6 (a month ago).

    Opi thought before the season started that the Bills would start the year 2-5. How did that work out?!?!?

    The fact (and this IS a fact) the Bills still are very much in
    “charge” of their own destiny with 4 divisions games coming up....three at home. Win the division....that is the goal. #1 seed or even #2 seed would be fantastic. And still very possible.

    sahlensguy said that “The Chiefs are consistent with their dominance.”...that’s not true AT ALL.

    They lost to freakin’ INDY, a franchise and team that is a dumpster fire. Allowing the Colts to come back by the hand of an almost washed up Matt Ryan, who was benched later in the year.

    The BARELY got by TENN, who had the greenest, rawest, pretty crappy rookie QB at the helm, Malik Willis, who went 5/16 for 80 yards. It took them OT to get the win. And they could only get a FG in OT, and because Willis was at QB, TN lost.

    That is NOT
    “dominance”.


    Who knows if the Chief’s go undefeated the rest of the season. Are you willing to put money down on that??? I, nor anyone else who likes their money in their pocket would.

    You can do the same thing with any team in the NFL. Philly is flying high, until they get beat at home against Washigton with a barely avenge QB. Then they barely escape with a win against the Colts.

    Minny seems like they can't lose, getting lucky break after lucky break....until they get their asses handed to them by Dallas.


    The game before that Dallas gets beat by the woefully underperforming Packers. Allowing Green Bay their only win in the past SEVEN games.

    That’s the way the ball bounces in the NFL.


    Wait until the Bills **** the bed before the cynics bury them.




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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    OP is right the team hasn't played well the last month. Rationalize all you want making BS excuses in your heads the team has not played well period.

    And they needed to play well to address what historian is talking about. They didn't. They all too often don't under McDermott along with the coaching blunders that never help.

    A month ago the Bills were in charge of their destiny and now they need to HOPE for a better destiny than they played for.

    Sad...but true.


    Who's making excuses? They haven't played well since the bye. I've said it. Others have said it. However, they were playing as well as anyone before that. To say the last 4 games are the Bills of the rest of the season and that they can't get back to the 5-1 pre bye team is stupid. I'm not saying they will but anyone saying they can't is an idiot.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    2-2 since the bye. Barely beat below average teams in Cleveland and GB. The team has a ton of injuries, didn't practice last week cuz of the snow, and only has 3 days to sort out the issues before Detroit. And while Detroit is another below average team, they just beat a good NJ team that runs a very similar offense to us. That's reality. This is not the team we saw in Sept and Oct. Their play has declined significantly.
    The Giants don't really run a similar offense to us.
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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    The Giants don't really run a similar offense to us.
    Exactly

    anyone who thinks that a team with saquon Barkley and Daniel jones runs an offense like josh Allen and Devin singletary truly have no idea what the &&&& they are talking about.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Lmao. That’s fair weather fan talk.

    Real fans don’t need to mind **** themselves into thinking there will be a win to keep watching.
    You may be a fan but you are the worst kind of fan.

    I guess I been pretending to be a real fan since around 1980.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by sahlensguy View Post
    You didn't watch the Bills during the Brady years?
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    Can’t remember the last game I didn’t watch.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Who's making excuses? They haven't played well since the bye. I've said it. Others have said it. However, they were playing as well as anyone before that. To say the last 4 games are the Bills of the rest of the season and that they can't get back to the 5-1 pre bye team is stupid. I'm not saying they will but anyone saying they can't is an idiot.
    You are right...it does go both ways.

    Personally, I don't like the 'hope we make the playoffs and uber allen shows up' approach. That is not part of building a football team to win. We are good enough to win and learn to win. Still, you have to take a loss because opponents are that good and serendipity plays a big role. But you have to show up on every play ... and when things are going bad you need to master the reset on that level and work to show up on the next play. Our squad is good enough to win consistently. Allowing that to slip away is problematic any way you want to look at it. It is the small pieces you have to build and they are breaking down which isn't building. And it runs deep so that starts to penetrate the mentality of the culture and can pop up at any time because it suddenly is there.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    You are right...it does go both ways.

    Personally, I don't like the 'hope we make the playoffs and uber allen shows up' approach. That is not part of building a football team to win. We are good enough to win and learn to win. Still, you have to take a loss because opponents are that good and serendipity plays a big role. But you have to show up on every play ... and when things are going bad you need to master the reset on that level and work to show up on the next play. Our squad is good enough to win consistently. Allowing that to slip away is problematic any way you want to look at it. It is the small pieces you have to build and they are breaking down which isn't building. And it runs deep so that starts to penetrate the mentality of the culture and can pop up at any time because it suddenly is there.
    In a 17 games season, with one of the most physically demanding and dangerous sports, the goal is to "show up on every play” but very difficult to do.

    The Bills TEAM, has done a very credible job of “show(ing) up on every play” almost all of the time. Is it fair to say that Josh Allen has not “show(ed) up on every play” because he has made a few errors, among the overwhelming number of plays that he’s literally the best player on the field????


    Has the TEAM showed any indication of “giving up” and NOT putting in a credible effort to "show up on every play” ?!?!?


    Any objective observer knows the answer. NO!!!!

    Yes, "Our squad is good enough to win consistently” and they have done exactly that. Sitting with 7 wins (or more) is something that 71.8% of the teams in the NFL have failed to do. Only NINE teams have and TWENTY THREE teams have not. There will most likely never be an undefeated team in the NFL again. NEVER.


    Especially since the last CBA was approved, shortingling the pre-season and dramatically limiting practices and tightly regulating the amount of time players can be required to engage in the same.


    There is no surprise that the last four years, the teams with the least number of regular season loses (4,2,2,3) did not win the Super Bowl.

    The last four winners of the SB had 5,5,4 & 5 loses in the regular season.


    This season's Bills are NOT "
    Allowing that (winning consistency) to slip away". Every team goes through adversity at some time during the season.

    If anything, the Bills have shown much resilience in overcoming those challenges late in the season the last two years.

    2021, after losing two in a row, and three of four and four of six games, they went on a four game win streak to end the season.

    2020, after the absurd Hail Mary loss (a lot like the Minny loss) the Bills went on a SIX game win streak to finish the season.

    It remains to be seen if that will happen again....I have predicted (and stick with it 100%) that the Bills are more likely than not to win six in a row after Minny, and go into the Cincy game 12-3.

    Novacane is SPOT ON when he writes....”
    To say the last 4 games are the Bills of the rest of the season and that they can't get back to the 5-1 pre bye team is stupid. I'm not saying they will but anyone saying they can't is an idiot.


    Better to WAIT until they actually **** the bed before burying them.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Typ0 View Post
    You are right...it does go both ways.

    Personally, I don't like the 'hope we make the playoffs and uber allen shows up' approach. That is not part of building a football team to win. We are good enough to win and learn to win. Still, you have to take a loss because opponents are that good and serendipity plays a big role. But you have to show up on every play ... and when things are going bad you need to master the reset on that level and work to show up on the next play. Our squad is good enough to win consistently. Allowing that to slip away is problematic any way you want to look at it. It is the small pieces you have to build and they are breaking down which isn't building. And it runs deep so that starts to penetrate the mentality of the culture and can pop up at any time because it suddenly is there.
    Trust the process.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    hmmm.... when I mention previous years, it's "only this year matters." But, when it gives people the answer they're looking for- in this case, that the team will improve- suddenly, looking at prior years is acceptable. Weird how that works.
    No I was making fun of choosing the past and giving it meaning in the present. It’s foolishness and folly. So I said if we are gonna focus on the last 4 games… why not look at last 2 years?

    glad you see how past performance means nothing in a game of such variables.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Been busy with family stuff and I’m sick for the first time in 3 years thanks to being around too many ****ing kids….


    But, the Lions game was same shut, different day. Yes, we got the win. Yes, we won a close game. But it was yet another mediocre performance against a sub-par opponent thst we couldn’t put away. The D is giving up too many third and longs, and the O is out of sync.

    And the injuries continue to mount.

    NE will beat us this week.They’re not what they used to be but the Bills are just making too many mistakes to beat a Belicheck team.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post

    NE will beat us this week.They’re not what they used to be but the Bills are just making too many mistakes to beat a Belicheck team.
    Thanks for guaranteeing a win.

    Hope you feel better.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Been busy with family stuff and I’m sick for the first time in 3 years thanks to being around too many ****ing kids….


    But, the Lions game was same shut, different day. Yes, we got the win. Yes, we won a close game. But it was yet another mediocre performance against a sub-par opponent thst we couldn’t put away. The D is giving up too many third and longs, and the O is out of sync.

    And the injuries continue to mount.

    NE will beat us this week.They’re not what they used to be but the Bills are just making too many mistakes to beat a Belicheck team.
    Thank you for gracing us with your opinion. We've been waiting with bated breath!

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    Re: We got the win, but...

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    NE will beat us this week.
    And what if they don't? Will you admit you were wrong or will you continue to say how smart you were for having the correct reasons for predicting the wrong outcome?

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    Re: We got the win, but...

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    And what if they don't? Will you admit you were wrong or will you continue to say how smart you were for having the correct reasons for predicting the wrong outcome?
    He’s never wrong

    no matter the outcome

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    The Giants don't really run a similar offense to us.
    The troubling thing, to me anyway, is that they look better coached in taking more advantage of less talent. So Daboll wasn't a one trick pony, like you'd sometimes have believed here, or carried by his QB, he actually has a head for the game and his staff.

    They can't run the same offense, they aren't overloaded with the same talent, and it makes you wonder about the coaching here from the top.

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    Re: We got the win, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    And what if they don't? Will you admit you were wrong or will you continue to say how smart you were for having the correct reasons for predicting the wrong outcome?
    What some of you refuse to see is that it’s not about me. Whether I’m right or wrong, whether I admit it if I am wrong… it doesn’t change the reality that this team isn’t what most people thought it was to start the season. Or maybe it was but got derailed by injuries. Either way, doesn’t matter. This team is NOT a SB contender.

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