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    Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    It pains me to say this but it's true. I can't stand burrow but this is the reality. Josh isn't good in high pressure games and burrow is. Burrow has been to the super bowl, Josh Allen hasn't. Burrow plays cool under pressure, Josh doesn't. Josh turns the ball over and burrow doesn't. Josh is relying on physical talent and burrow is relying on his understanding of the game. Burrow is better than Allen.
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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    So many teams have surpassed us. Bengals are one of them

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Yeah I think our year was probably 13 seconds. This thing needs to get blown up and start over. Probably 2 or three years from a legitimate shot at the super bowl. Don't get me wrong I think we can do it but not with these current core players.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Maybe. Burrow has a better team around him and better coaching for sure.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    I have faced the reality that Zac Taylor is a better HC than McDermott

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    I have faced the reality that Zac Taylor is a better HC than McDermott


    Agree. And Taylor is not very impressive!

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Maybe. Burrow has a better team around him and better coaching for sure.
    I would agree with that. That's probably why this thing needs to get blown up. We missed our shot. Need to get younger and cheaper.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Oof

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Interesting to come away with this take with how the game played out.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    No argument. Still waiting for Josh to grow more after 13 seconds, and he hasn't.
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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Max View Post
    I have faced the reality that Zac Taylor is a better HC than McDermott
    Is he or is his supporting cast better .... coaching staff and 3 very good WR's

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Is he or is his supporting cast better .... coaching staff and 3 very good WR's
    When they lose either of the top 2 WR's Tee Higgins or Ja'Marr Chase they're pretty much done.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    I disagree on the premise, and I think the problem again, is Dorsey.

    Bombs away...every play.

    Cinci plays a modified WCO, that dinks and dunks until they get single coverage...then boom.

    On Josh's interception, Diggs was wide open underneath, would have been at least a 5-6 yard gain.

    Nah, we throw the deep 25 yard out pattern, and there's nowhere to go with the ball.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I disagree on the premise, and I think the problem again, is Dorsey.

    Bombs away...every play.

    Cinci plays a modified WCO, that dinks and dunks until they get single coverage...then boom.

    On Josh's interception, Diggs was wide open underneath, would have been at least a 5-6 yard gain.

    Nah, we throw the deep 25 yard out pattern, and there's nowhere to go with the ball.
    Josh is throwing shorter than ever in his recent career if you look at ADOT, average depth of target. So it's not Bombs away. I mean you are 100% right, Diggs was open on the Josh interception, it was a Stick concept. Slot WR routes an option route and outside wr goes up field to pull defenders. Josh pumped the short throw and threw it to Davis, he should have taken the easy yards like Tom was telling him to on podcast. There's a lot you can say about Dorsey's offense, I mean it's not even his offense, he's just calling the plays, but you can't blame him for the int. That was on Josh, he has the choice, throw the easy 5 yards, or try for a harder throw that was clearly taken away by the defender. That's what happens when we're down 14-7 and Josh starts to press, he takes more risks when it should be the opposite. Can't go broke picking up nickels.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    That play to the outside to Davis has resulted in as many interceptions as completions. It's like they are baiting him and that pump fake to the short middle is a tell more than a fake.

    Either do something else within that action or take it out of the playbook.

    I'm on Team-Dorsey should have never been given the keys to this offense.

    We were a Superbowl contender but now defenses have us pegged.

    You can blame Josh for his tendencies but those tendencies won us a lot of games.

    Enter the "please don't hurt yourself Josh" and the "this hasn't worked yet but I know it will" offense.
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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoidAndroid View Post
    That play to the outside to Davis has resulted in as many interceptions as completions. It's like they are baiting him and that pump fake to the short middle is a tell more than a fake.

    Either do something else within that action or take it out of the playbook.

    I'm on Team-Dorsey should have never been given the keys to this offense.

    We were a Superbowl contender but now defenses have us pegged.

    You can blame Josh for his tendencies but those tendencies won us a lot of games.

    Enter the "please don't hurt yourself Josh" and the "this hasn't worked yet but I know it will" offense.
    Believe it or not that "play" was a staple play in Daboll's offense. With Beasley catch the short out option a lot, and every once in a while you'd hit the hole shot on the outside, but last night Josh forced it. It's a stick concept, it's a staple of this O whether you guys want to believe it or not, we just throw the short out instead of the dumb option Josh chose yesterday. Josh doesn't have that throw to Davis open very much because teams know, we will give them the "stick" and take away the downfield throw, Josh just chose wrong, **** happens.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    JA17 has not been the same since he got that bartender pregnant and his girlfriend dumped him. Now is is more interested in being Hollywood JA17 with his actress girlfriend than being QB1 for the Bills.
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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    No, Joe Burrow is not necessarily a "better QB than Josh Allen". He IS playing better than Josh at this time. Earlier in the year, Burrow was awful. I guess if his fragile girl-like legs get a bruise on them he might just go to **** again.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by daryls61 View Post
    JA17 has not been the same since he got that bartender pregnant and his girlfriend dumped him. Now is is more interested in being Hollywood JA17 with his actress girlfriend than being QB1 for the Bills.



    I think the 2nd part is 100% BS. His personal life could be affecting his play but I don't buy for a second he's more interested in being Hollywood Josh than he is winning on the football field. If you said he's not the same because he's depressed about screwing things up with the long time love of his life I could see that as a possibility. That he doesn't care does not fit the JA we've come to know. Even if there are personal issues I still say the biggest problem is the moron calling the plays.

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    Re: Time to face reality. Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen

    Quote Originally Posted by kingJofNYC View Post
    Believe it or not that "play" was a staple play in Daboll's offense. With Beasley catch the short out option a lot, and every once in a while you'd hit the hole shot on the outside, but last night Josh forced it. It's a stick concept, it's a staple of this O whether you guys want to believe it or not, we just throw the short out instead of the dumb option Josh chose yesterday. Josh doesn't have that throw to Davis open very much because teams know, we will give them the "stick" and take away the downfield throw, Josh just chose wrong, **** happens.

    A lot.

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