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Bills retain defensive coordinator Jerry Gray. It's almost a given that a new coach will install his own offensive and defensive coordinators. But Mike Mularkey recognized the fine job Gray did in 2003 and left him in place.
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I'm interested to see what Gray can do without GW's influence.
or Lebeau's help.Originally posted by billsfanone
I'm interested to see what Gray can do without GW's influence.
LeBeau helped but he didn't call the plays that's why he left.Originally posted by justasportsfan
or Lebeau's help.
That's why I said help.Originally posted by The Spaz
LeBeau helped but he didn't call the plays that's why he left.
I think the defensive ranking last year was deceiving. I think field position not gained by the O led to the D not giving up many yards. We were dead last in takaways.
I know I was just saying.Originally posted by justasportsfan
That's why I said help.
I think Grey has grown into a good defensive coordinator. We made few changes to the D, so he should benefit from the continuity in personnel who know the system.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Gray isn't as bad as he was two years ago, and not as good as it appeared this year.
The biggest problem I saw is that teams were throwing a lot for short yardage and making them (winfield 10 yds away from his man) . I'm not sure if it was our cb's or if Gray put them in those situations.
That, and there was no passrush at times.Originally posted by justasportsfan
The biggest problem I saw is that teams were throwing a lot for short yardage and making them (winfield 10 yds away from his man) . I'm not sure if it was our cb's or if Gray put them in those situations.
We'll see. I think they'll get things ironed out.
Ill go with our Safties being so bad. If I got cornered got beat it was an easy TD. Milloy and whoever the hell was in at FS were non-existant all season. Unfortunately I see alot of the same this next season too. We wont be getting many picks.Originally posted by justasportsfan
The biggest problem I saw is that teams were throwing a lot for short yardage and making them (winfield 10 yds away from his man) . I'm not sure if it was our cb's or if Gray put them in those situations.
I have to disagree with this. Part of the reason we had the #2 defense last year was the consistent, if unspectacular, play st SS by Lawyer Milloy. And Reese was an improvement over Prileau.Originally posted by DraftBoy
Ill go with our Safties being so bad. If I got cornered got beat it was an easy TD. Milloy and whoever the hell was in at FS were non-existant all season. Unfortunately I see alot of the same this next season too. We wont be getting many picks.
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I aks this because I don't know really. What kind of coverage do your corners play? Or at least, last year? Was it generally man to man, cover 2, some type of zone? Did they play generally off the receiver by a ton or right up on them? I am just curious to see how that might change with Vincent replacing the faster Winfield in the defensive backfield.
Chris Bown of Bills Digest said he see the Bills using a lot more of cover 2 but not exclusively.Originally posted by Samphin1
I aks this because I don't know really. What kind of coverage do your corners play? Ar at least, last year? Was it generally man to man, cover 2, some type of zone? Did they play generally off the receiever by a ton or right up on them? I am just curious to see how that might change with Vincent replacing the faster Winfield in the defensive backfield.
You could also argue that the 3 and outs by the O really put the D in a tough position, as far as time on the field. They also gave up very few PPG (I haven't checked but I'm sure it's top ten - maybe top 5 in that category).Originally posted by billsfanone
I think the defensive ranking last year was deceiving. I think field position not gained by the O led to the D not giving up many yards. We were dead last in takaways.
My biggest beef were the converted third downs at critical points in the game. That seemed to always happen. Overall, though, the D made most of the Bills' games winnable.
Whoever calls the DB's to play 5-10 yards off the LOS every game should have been fired two years ago.
Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.
I agree. Gilbrides passing O harldy took any time off the clock and since we often went 3 and out that's gives the opposing teams more time to wear down our D. the Miami game was a good example. RW running 40+ times.Originally posted by Jeff1220
You could also argue that the 3 and outs by the O really put the D in a tough position, as far as time on the field. They also gave up very few PPG (I haven't checked but I'm sure it's top ten - maybe top 5 in that category).
My biggest beef were the converted third downs at critical points in the game. That seemed to always happen. Overall, though, the D made most of the Bills' games winnable.
I disagree, we had one of the best ranked passing D's. We often took away the big passing plays but got burned for shot yards because of it. I often saw Winfield and clements give up short yards because they were 5-10 yards away from their man. A lot of those ended up in 1st downs for the opposing teams.Originally posted by DraftBoy
Ill go with our Safties being so bad. If I got cornered got beat it was an easy TD. Milloy and whoever the hell was in at FS were non-existant all season. Unfortunately I see alot of the same this next season too. We wont be getting many picks.
Milloy was solid but not a probowler we expected him to be for the $$$ we were paying him. Hopefully, he'll step it up in his second year w/ the team.
Maybe you just didnt understand my point. Im saying that the reason we were playing so far off the line was due to the safeties so we wouldnt get burned deep. I understand how we got beat. I honestly dont think it will be any better this year. Also neither of our current corners are at all physical so I wouldnt expect alot of jamming at the line.Originally posted by justasportsfan
I disagree, we had one of the best ranked passing D's. We often took away the big passing plays but got burned for shot yards because of it. I often saw Winfield and clements give up short yards because they were 5-10 yards away from their man. A lot of those ended up in 1st downs for the opposing teams.
Milloy was solid but not a probowler we expected him to be for the $$$ we were paying him. Hopefully, he'll step it up in his second year w/ the team.
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