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Buffalo Bills
Players added (4):
DT Oliver Gibson (cut, CIN)
FB Damian Shelton
(FA, DNP in 2003)
OL Chris Villarial (FA, CHI)
CB Troy Vincent (FA, PHI)
Players lost (4):
G Ruben Brown (cut, CHI)
FB Sam Gash (FA, NO)
TE Dave Moore (cut, TB)
CB Antoine Winfield (FA, MIN)
Re-signed (5):
QB Travis Brown
DE Keith McKenzie
OL Lawrence Smith
OL Marques Sullivan
G Ross Tucker
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You're on a roll today.
Draft not included, I think the offseason was break-even.
I think you have to include the draft.Originally posted by billsfanone
You're on a roll today.
Draft not included, I think the offseason was break-even.
I do? I was making a point about the moves without the draft. Like last year, we were improved greatly not counting the draft.Originally posted by The Spaz
I think you have to include the draft.
I guess I misunderstood you. I count the draft because it is an offseason event.Originally posted by billsfanone
I do? I was making a point about the moves without the draft. Like last year, we were improved greatly not counting the draft.
Same old threads for the last 3 days. It's freakin boring in OBD.Originally posted by billsfanone
You're on a roll today.
I do too. I'm just pointing out the FA signings and losses.Originally posted by The Spaz
I guess I misunderstood you. I count the draft because it is an offseason event.
They forgot at least Morris and Polk as players lost.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
Seriously, we didn't need to sign Big Name Fa's this offseason. Good to great coaching could of taken us to the playoffs LAST year, with the talent we had.
I see it as:
Gibson is way better than Moore.
Vincent is an upgrade over Winfield.
Shelton is a slight to moderate downgrade to Gash.
Villairial breaks even with RB.
Coaching should be a HUGE upgrade from last year.
"It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."-Vince Lombardi
Originally posted by ShadowHawk7
Seriously, we didn't need to sign Big Name Fa's this offseason. Good to great coaching could of taken us to the playoffs LAST year, with the talent we had.
I see it as:
Gibson is way better than Moore.
Vincent is an upgrade over Winfield.
Shelton is a slight to moderate downgrade to Gash.
Villairial breaks even with RB.
Coaching should be a HUGE upgrade from last year.
Vincent is a downgrade in my mind. We lose tackling for better hands. A loss in my opinion especially if we stick with our backed off corner scheme.
O-line coach was added as well..
Whats his name again??
Boston puts Woodson face first. "What else is new???"
>>>>>>>>>> Troy Vincents Worst Nightmare <<<<<<<<<<<
"Who's The BIATCH NOW"!!!!!!!??????
I would think you would almost have to play Vincent off. He is slower than Winfield too.Originally posted by DraftBoy
Vincent is a downgrade in my mind. We lose tackling for better hands. A loss in my opinion especially if we stick with our backed off corner scheme.
Troy Vincent
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4442
Antoine Winfield
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133453
There isn't too much of a difference in the tackling numbers.
I agree 100% that coaching will make a HUGE difference this year. If we had this staff last year, we would have been in the playoffs, no doubt about it!Originally posted by ShadowHawk7
Seriously, we didn't need to sign Big Name Fa's this offseason. Good to great coaching could of taken us to the playoffs LAST year, with the talent we had.
I see it as:
Gibson is way better than Moore.
Vincent is an upgrade over Winfield.
Shelton is a slight to moderate downgrade to Gash.
Villairial breaks even with RB.
Coaching should be a HUGE upgrade from last year.
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for the second year in a row,we didn't address the Center position.
Originally Posted by yordad
There's still June 1st.Originally posted by SABURZFAN
for the second year in a row,we didn't address the Center position.
Villariel doesn't break even with Ruben.... Believe me, Villariel is much better then Ruben is.
You're right, I am a coward! I haven't any courage at all. I even scare myself.
Not only that but Villarial is playing RG so he would be replacing Mike Pucillo and Ross Tucker not Ruben Brown.Originally posted by ScottLawrence
Villariel doesn't break even with Ruben.... Believe me, Villariel is much better then Ruben is.
Vincent is an upgrade at corner.. A true corner makes the big play and that is an Int. at the corner spot.Originally posted by DraftBoy
Vincent is a downgrade in my mind. We lose tackling for better hands. A loss in my opinion especially if we stick with our backed off corner scheme.Ruben is better than Vallarial.. He's done alot more throughout his carreer, and consistantly is in front of a 1000 yd rusher.Originally posted by ScottLawrence
Villariel doesn't break even with Ruben.... Believe me, Villariel is much better then Ruben is.
"Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76
Your wrong and way overrate Ruben.Ruben is better than Vallarial.. He's done alot more throughout his carreer, and consistantly is in front of a 1000 yd rusher.
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