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Brady had/has an awesome cheating system in place. Can't compare him with EJ.
Brady had/has an awesome cheating system in place. Can't compare him with EJ.
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Re: A few random thoughts & opinions...
I still don't get the Trent Edwards comparisons. EJ is throwing short routes on 1st and 2nd downs and is typically doing a good job of converting on 3rd downs. Trent's problem was that he'd settle for 4 yards on a 3rd and 8. EJ's making a clear effort to convert on every 3rd down, he's not just checking down for the sake of getting half the yards he needs to get before we punt it away.Comment
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He has? Moved the chains while he's out there?Originally posted by elltrain22 View Post
Based on what?
This preseason the drives with him in the game have been 17 yards, 10 yards, 78 yards (failed to punch it in), 13 yards, 35 yards (28 of which was on one pass play), 44 yards (FG), 27 yards, 39 yards (FG), 61 yards (drive ended on Manuel incompletion), 39 yards (Manuel was 1-for-3 for 0 yards with a 1st-and-GTG at the Pitt 6).
You think he moves the ball?
10, 13, 17, 27, 35, 39, 39, 44 (FG), 61, and 78.
Sorry, not seeing it.
Same with Spiller, he may crack a long one every now and again, but it's the 20 carries in between where he does nothing, his uselessness on 3rd-downs, and his limited play otherwise that doesn't cut it. He's a role player, not a starting 3-down RB. He should be treated as such.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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------Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.
Originally Posted by pmoon6 
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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I hope chandler can consistently kick 53.7 yd fgs. Our average yds per drive is 36.3 add the 20 touchback and thats what he will be facing on average.Originally posted by Fletch View PostComment
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You sure about that?Originally posted by ICRockets View Post
Did you look at Manuel's 3rd-down-conversion % for last season?
47.5%, 5.15 ypa, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 61.4 rating.
Jason Campbell was better at 57.9%, 6.72, 81.6 rating, 2 TDs, 1 INT
Geno Smith was better at 56.3%, 7.58 ypa, 77.7 rating, 5 TDs, 5 INTs
Manuel was one of the worst 3rd-down QBs in the league last season.
Against Pittsburgh this preseason he went 5 for 8 on 3rds, but every drive stalled on a Manuel incompletion on 3rd, an interception, or his failing to convert.
He was 2-for-4 on 3rds against Carolina, two of his three drives stalling with the ball in his hands.
He was 0-for-2 against the Giants with both drives stalling on his incompletions.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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------Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post. Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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See my two posts above.Originally posted by elltrain22 View Posthttp://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
Post #46
------Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post. Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Good post, but this line is my favorite. Especially the nap part.Originally posted by elltrain22 View Post
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LOLOriginally posted by Mr. Miyagi View PostGood post, but this line is my favorite. Especially the nap part.
The urge to nap usually takes affect after the surge in aggravation in the 2nd quarter. Then there's halftime where we have no choice but to settle down, then once the emotions have subsided, acceptance kicks in and the urge for a serene nap kicks in.http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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------Originally posted by Yasgur's Farm(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post. Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
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Heck, if Chandler can kick a 53-yarder, how far out do you think Carpenter can go?Originally posted by BB4ever View Post
Winning!Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.Comment
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Our opener vs the Jets last year was terrible. Great scence, great food/snacks/beer, great day to watch, and so much excitement… What happened, it was over after 2 quarters, I started my nap during halftime.Originally posted by Fletch View PostIf you walk with Jesus today, you don't have anything to worry about tomorrow...Comment
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Originally posted by BB4ever View Post
Well considering 36.3 yds. per drive would of been ranked the 4th highest in the league last year, that's not too bad. If you're gonna bash the team, at least know what the **** you're talking about (including the kickers name).
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Yeah, he's going by the small sample of the pre-season and the ridiculous assumption that young qbs can improve. Everyone knows third down was a massive problem last year.Originally posted by Fletch View PostComment
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And EJ is so terrible that an improved OL & added weapons on offense will do nothing to help him convert those 3rd downs this year either.Originally posted by Dr. Who View PostComment
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For the 10 drives this year, I get an average of 38.7 yards, 8.3 plays, 2.1 first downs, 3:37 TOP and 2.1 points (if you count the three drives where they probably would have kicked instead of gone for it in normal circumstances).Originally posted by kishoph View Post
There's a lot of good you can take from that, even though it's just 10 drives:
* no 3 and outs (100% DSR...you can't beat that, 8.3 plays per drive compared to 5.6 in '13)
* excellent possession (3:37 TOP compared to 2:12 in '13)
* excellent yardage (38.7 compared to 26.7 ypd in '13)
* pretty good points (2.10 compared to 1.57 in '13)
* just one turnover (0.100 turnover per drive compared to 0.126 last year)
On the other hand...
* no td's
* red zone suckitude
At this point, I'd have to say I'm a bit surprised and guardedly optimistic.Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.Comment
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