Bills Toxic

[trapezeus]

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Didn't take long for the Douchers to come swarming. God forbid anyone enjoy a positive stat.

you do have to adjust for outlier games to have the stat be meaningful/comparative.

it's definitely a good sign. my concern will always remain that the offense is unable to run a good 4-6 minute drive once or twice a game reliably. it's either 3 and out or its a long play. it puts a lot of wear and tear on a defense that is on the verge of being great. but they are being abandoned on the field.

[Guest]

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The teams we've beaten are not good and aren't going anywhere.....

That is not true of the Lions and Dolphins.

[Dr. Lecter]

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That is not true of the Lions and Dolphins.

But they had bad games against the Bills and the Bills barely beat Detroit

They don't count.

[Dr. Lecter]

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BTW, in terms of the Bills not beating good teams - they are 4th in the AFC and 7th in the NFL in strength of victory %

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true

So, in terms of actual breakdown of who they beat and how good the teams are, they are actually doing pretty well.

At least based on actual facts and stuff

[feldspar]

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Didn't take long for the Douchers to come swarming.

It never does.

God forbid that they apply all these asterisks that they like so much to every other team, and nitpick everything all the time for those teams. No, everybody else's stats are squeaky clean, apparently...or at least not worth mentioning mostly.

Stats only mean so much, anyway. But turnovers and big plays are pretty important, I'd say. I can see giving some weight to the toxic differential.

[imbondz]

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Toxic differential is basically a number, which is arrived at by adding a team's net takeaways with a team's net number of plays that went for at least 20-yards.

So the Bills have forced 18 turnovers and turned the ball over 11 times: 18-11 = 7, so that that's half of it.

The Bills have had 35 offensive plays of 20-yards or more, and they've defensively allowed their opponents 22 plays of 20-yards or more: 35-22 = 13, and there is the other half of it.

Add the two categories together, 7 + 13, and the Bills' toxic differential is +20.

Got that, ya lazy bastard?

yep! much easier than reading that article.

[Dr. Lecter]

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yep! much easier than reading that article.

They really need to use more pictures with these articles for you.......

[Guest]

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But they had bad games against the Bills and the Bills barely beat Detroit

They don't count.

Look this could very well all fall apart during the next 4 games to no one's surprise, but that does not take away from an impressive first half of the season.

I wish our OL and running game were better since it would make us less vulnerable however perhaps our D has even another level it can rise to to enable us to win 5 more games.

[Fletch]

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That is not true of the Lions and Dolphins.

It is true of Detroit, they were a shell of their normal team on offense when we played them.

I don't consider Miami to be good, they seem below average. I mean who is expecting them to break .500? All the talk here prior to the season was how they sucked, now they're good according to people here? They're OK, probably about like us. That game had much energy and much like the Jets last week we allowed them to hang around into the 4th too. Remember, it was a FG fest for us.

Either way, let's no leapfrog the point, the second half features teams much tougher than we had in the first half and teams that typically aren't going to make the kinds of TOs that have led us to victories. So we'll have to find ways to win otherwise.

[Fletch]

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It never does.

God forbid that they apply all these asterisks that they like so much to every other team, and nitpick everything all the time for those teams. No, everybody else's stats are squeaky clean, apparently...or at least not worth mentioning mostly.

Stats only mean so much, anyway. But turnovers and big plays are pretty important, I'd say. I can see giving some weight to the toxic differential.

Let me ask some of you, what was so offensive about what I posted? Seriously?

What was so offensive to you that you felt you had no choice but to start name-calling and putting me down, etc.?

I mean are you guys that out of control with your emotional wherewithal? Sure seems like it.

Comes across to many like the same types that want to start brawls at games because they don't like what an opposing fan said.

[Fletch]

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Look this could very well all fall apart during the next 4 games to no one's surprise, but that does not take away from an impressive first half of the season.

I wish our OL and running game were better since it would make us less vulnerable however perhaps our D has even another level it can rise to to enable us to win 5 more games.

What gets me is at the beginning of the season everyone was talking about how great our OL was and how our RBs were elite especially because we had players like Brown and Dixon as backups both of whom could start should the need arise. I can even go find the thread entitled that. Anyone that insisted otherwise was called all kinds of things.

Now all of a sudden they're problematic.

This is nuts here.

One thing that hardly anyone mentions is that our defense had better tighten up its running D here soon or we're ****ed. 333 yards allowed the last two weeks, I don't see any of these articles mentioning that. Only the positives.

I'm highly concerned about that. Only a fool wouldn't be.

[casdhf]

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What gets me is at the beginning of the season everyone was talking about how great our OL was and how our RBs were elite especially because we had players like Brown and Dixon as backups both of whom could start should the need arise. I can even go find the thread entitled that. Anyone that insisted otherwise was called all kinds of things.

Now all of a sudden they're problematic.

This is nuts here.

One thing that hardly anyone mentions is that our defense had better tighten up its running D here soon or we're ****ed. 333 yards allowed the last two weeks, I don't see any of these articles mentioning that. Only the positives.

I'm highly concerned about that. Only a fool wouldn't be.

Kinda like all those threads saying Watkins was going to be a bust? You can't win them all, Fletch.

[trapezeus]

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What gets me is at the beginning of the season everyone was talking about how great our OL was and how our RBs were elite especially because we had players like Brown and Dixon as backups both of whom could start should the need arise. I can even go find the thread entitled that. Anyone that insisted otherwise was called all kinds of things.

Now all of a sudden they're problematic.

This is nuts here.

One thing that hardly anyone mentions is that our defense had better tighten up its running D here soon or we're ****ed. 333 yards allowed the last two weeks, I don't see any of these articles mentioning that. Only the positives.

I'm highly concerned about that. Only a fool wouldn't be.

and you're the guy saying how dixon and bryce are no good because they went against the 6th rated rush defense and struggled to produce.

you're the kind of guy who goes to the stadium, talks nonstop about how right you are and then end up surprised that someone started a fight with you. always the victim, right fletch/very wide right

[Dr. Lecter]

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One thing that hardly anyone mentions is that our defense had better tighten up its running D here soon or we're ****ed. 333 yards allowed the last two weeks, I don't see any of these articles mentioning that. Only the positives.

I'm highly concerned about that. Only a fool wouldn't be.

The run defense gave up 106 yards last week on 25 carries. 69 yards were to Vick. That is not on the run defense. It is on contain on the pass rushers.

Which was largely corrected at half time.

[Dr. Lecter]

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Only the positives.

And this is funny.

And ironic.