Mike Mayock:No QB Worth 1st Pick

[DraftBoy]

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...in-nfl-draft/1

Mayock, Ing, and I all agree.

[hydro]

Say no to a QB in the first round!

[X-Era]

I agree as well. Should it happen? No. Could it happen? Yes... the position is coveted.

I could see Bradford dropping to us. I think its not likely, but that it could happen.

[DraftBoy]

I think even if one of them drops we aren't taking them. That will piss off plenty of the fans.

[kernowboy]

Teams always overpay for a QB

Alex Smith wasn't the best player in 2005 but he went No1, as did JaMarcus Russell in 2007.

QB is always the position teams will overpay for in a draft

[Mahdi]

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...in-nfl-draft/1

Mayock, Ing, and I all agree.

He says he doesn't think a QB should go #1 overall. Doesn't say that there is none worthy of top ten.

Really, its going to depend on who is available when we pick. There are only a few players who are almost "Cant Miss."

Morgan, McCoy, Suh, Berry, Haden, Okung. Outside of those players everyone else has questions so you might as well grab the best QB on the board.

[DraftBoy]

He says he doesn't think a QB should go #1 overall. Doesn't say that there is none worthy of top ten.

Really, its going to depend on who is available when we pick. There are only a few players who are almost "Cant Miss."

Morgan, McCoy, Suh, Berry, Haden, Okung. Outside of those players everyone else has questions so you might as well grab the best QB on the board.

I never said anything about the top 10, but he does call the class average as far as QB's go.

I think we should take the best LT on the board not the best QB, especially when their are questions about if the top 2 guys are even worth of a top 10 selection or not.

[Slim]

I would have no problem taking Bradford at #9.


And i'm pretty sure Ing said he'd have a brain aneurysm if we passed on him. I could be wrong though.

[Ingtar33]

I would have no problem taking Bradford at #9.


And i'm pretty sure Ing said he'd have a brain aneurysm if we passed on him. I could be wrong though.

yep. because he's the best QB in the draft by a mile. he's not a surefire success like Roethlisberger, McNabb or P. Manning when they came out, but he's clearly the best QB in this draft.

We need a QB so badly... i couldn't forgive this franchise if it passes on the lone "possible" franchise QB in this draft.


~note: I'm not sold on Bradford, but i've seen enough of the other "top" QBs to know he's the best one -hands down- in this draft. He's at the lower edge of my ratings a guy needs to get to be even a "first round talent." But if the best QB in the draft drops to you, and QB is a massive hole in your roster, you have to take the shot, as long as he's drawing a 1st round grade.

[we are]

He could be right, but he's certainly been wrong before.

[PECKERWOOD]

No QB is worth a 1st.


That's if you're on ice.

[Night Train]

But Tebow IS A GOD ! I'VE HEARD OF HIM !

Draft a LT in Round 1 and aquire A Vet QB to compete with Brohm.

[Raptor]

Good read....I still bet Clausen and Bradford go top 10 and one of them goes top 5

[DraftBoy]

Good read....I still bet Clausen and Bradford go top 10 and one of them goes top 5

Very well may but that does not make them worth it or the smart picks.

[Mahdi]

I never said anything about the top 10, but he does call the class average as far as QB's go.

I think we should take the best LT on the board not the best QB, especially when their are questions about if the top 2 guys are even worth of a top 10 selection or not.

It really depends on who falls to us DB. Its a board right, and you take the top player on your board.

For me it is,


1. Suh
2. Okung
3. Morgan
4. McCoy
5. Clausen
6. Bradford
7. Hughes
8. Bulaga
9. Dunlap


10. Campbell
11. McClain
12. Berry
13. Bryant

Now, that board factors in value AND need based on Buffalo. If I was doing a board for another team it would look different.

So for Buffalo, they would be taking one of those top 9 guaranteed.

[DraftBoy]

It really depends on who falls to us DB. Its a board right, and you take the top player on your board.

For me it is,


1. Suh
2. Okung
3. Morgan
4. McCoy
5. Clausen
6. Bradford
7. Hughes
8. Bulaga
9. Dunlap


10. Campbell
11. McClain
12. Berry
13. Bryant

Now, that board factors in value AND need based on Buffalo. If I was doing a board for another team it would look different.

So for Buffalo, they would be taking one of those top 9 guaranteed.

Not all the time no. Some teams dont always stick to the board, for instance I have my board as;

1. Suh
2. Berry
3. McCoy
4. Bryant
5. McClain
6. Okung
7. Morgan
8. Bulaga
9. Spiller
10. Haden
11. Bradford
12. Dunlap
13. Campbell
14. Dwyer
15. Clausen

Now if Bryant were to fall to us at 9, I would still find it difficult to pass on a Bulaga or even Campbell to select him. Just as I would likely pass on Bradford if the top 9 went exactly how my board is and take either Dunlap or Campbell. Just because I put a guys value as high doesn't automatically make him my pick if he's there. Need and preference do play a role.

[THATHURMANATOR]

yep. because he's the best QB in the draft by a mile. he's not a surefire success like Roethlisberger, McNabb or P. Manning when they came out, but he's clearly the best QB in this draft.

We need a QB so badly... i couldn't forgive this franchise if it passes on the lone "possible" franchise QB in this draft.


~note: I'm not sold on Bradford, but i've seen enough of the other "top" QBs to know he's the best one -hands down- in this draft. He's at the lower edge of my ratings a guy needs to get to be even a "first round talent." But if the best QB in the draft drops to you, and QB is a massive hole in your roster, you have to take the shot, as long as he's drawing a 1st round grade.

Was Big Ben a sure fire prospect? Wasn't he the 3rd QB selected that year?

I do agree with you assesment on Bradford at 9 100%.

What are your feelings on Clausen?

[SABURZFAN]

Say no to a QB in the first round!

but... but.... the chicken littles say we need to use that #9 pick on a QB.

[SABURZFAN]

Very well may but that does not make them worth it or the smart picks.

so much for BPA....

[THATHURMANATOR]

but... but.... the chicken littles say we need to use that #9 pick on a QB.

I am no Chicken Little.

ING agrees that taking bradford at 9 is the way to go.