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    Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Via Twitter;

    After just an average workout at Combine, I graded 4 more games of R. Quinn and will definitely be lowering his grade out of the 1st round.
    http://twitter.com/#!/RUSSLANDE

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    The more I evaluate Nate Solder, the more I see Robert Gallery blocking for the Iowa Hawkeyes - He is a better athlete than football player.
    Why is no one talking about Cameron Jordan hitting a home run at the Combine to prove he is an Elite prospect & should be a Top 10 Pick.
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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    I was never a big fan of Quinn. Most of his 11 sacks were against inferior competition.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    I would love Quinn at #34.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Another "expert" trying to make a name for himself with assine predictions and hoping something sticks. Sort of like the Bills scouts and their stupid ass drafts for the last ten years.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt
    Another "expert" trying to make a name for himself with assine predictions and hoping something sticks. Sort of like the Bills scouts and their stupid ass drafts for the last ten years.
    And yet if Mike Mayock says this guy could go #1, everyone craps their pants with excitement.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Do you really think Quinn is dropping out of the 1st rd. ?

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt
    Another "expert" trying to make a name for himself with assine predictions and hoping something sticks. Sort of like the Bills scouts and their stupid ass drafts for the last ten years.
    Lande has more than already made a name for himself as well as a good bit of money. He has no need (nor does he) just make assinine perdictions to try and prove himself. If he says it, you can take it to the bank that he believes it.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    I never thought about the Solder-Gallery comparison...it made me laugh a little. I can see it. At least no one has Solder as a top 3 pick.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    I wonder if he meant Cam Newton

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    In December, Lande had Dareus not being picked in the first round. My friend sent me his War Room mock. He also didn't have him listed in his Top 5 DL.

    Now he has him #1 at DL. It's as if he just discovered him.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    What if he was right and we had a shot at both Dareus and Quinn? That would be an amazing start to a Bills draft in my opinion. But, it won't happen. lol

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    I could see Cameron Jordan being drafted as the #2 DE. I think it's Bowers then Jordan. JJ Watt would probably be the next guy.

    And I could see the DT's going Dareus then Fairley.

    Jordan may even go before Von Miller.


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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train
    In December, Lande had Dareus not being picked in the first round. My friend sent me his War Room mock. He also didn't have him listed in his Top 5 DL.

    Now he has him #1 at DL. It's as if he just discovered him.
    Exactly what I mean by assine predictions. Did this guy not watch the last two seasons of college football. Dareus not even in his top-5 dt's then all of a sudden he is #1 ? this guy is full of ****. Now he's on to Quinn.
    So if one of those guys happens to bust out in 3 or 4 years he can say he told us, but if they don't nobody will remember his stupid evaluations.
    Like the Bills scouting dept always reaching for their Sunbelt and Conference USA players. Stop trying to make something that is not there. Expert my ass.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Coinciding with Cameron Jordan's post combine rise in the draftee stock market, www.drafttek.com has him going to the Bills at # 3 with Marcell Dareus still on the board in their latest "consensus mock draft."
    I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

    I'm the most reasonable poster here. If you don't agree, I'll be forced to have a hissy fit.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Cameron Jordan would be a great pick up if we ended up trading down a few slots. He is a beast against the run. I don't think any of the top 3 DL have moved behind him though, so I don't think he would be our choice at #3.


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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train
    In December, Lande had Dareus not being picked in the first round. My friend sent me his War Room mock. He also didn't have him listed in his Top 5 DL.

    Now he has him #1 at DL. It's as if he just discovered him.
    I actually spoke to somebody close to Russ about that exact situation. You'll also notice that despite everybody else having Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara as their top 2 CB's Russ has Jimmy Smith.

    The person I spoke with said that Russ just trusts what he sees on the tape, he's not as influenced as others in the business by outside factors. He really just scouts guys and grades as he sees so he will always be a little out of the norm. Now do I agree with eveything he writes or grades? No but to act like he is just doing this to garner attention is an insult to a man who has done more to pave the way for draft fans getting more access than almost any other guy in the business.

    He's one of the best and he is one hell of a tape watcher.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt
    Exactly what I mean by assine predictions. Did this guy not watch the last two seasons of college football. Dareus not even in his top-5 dt's then all of a sudden he is #1 ? this guy is full of ****. Now he's on to Quinn.
    So if one of those guys happens to bust out in 3 or 4 years he can say he told us, but if they don't nobody will remember his stupid evaluations.
    Like the Bills scouting dept always reaching for their Sunbelt and Conference USA players. Stop trying to make something that is not there. Expert my ass.
    Some scouts don't watch underclassmen very closely till after they declare, which is the case in Dareus. I know because unlike your assumptions, I actually asked the question about why Dareus is so low.

    The response I got was that while he was aware of how good Dareus was based on reputation but he had yet to watch Dareus closely enough to go with everybody else. Clearly he saw more of Dareus and not only did he make him the tio DT before everybody else (last mock was 2/21) but he did so after he own evaluation. I can't fault a guy who actually does his job of watching tape before spouting off at the mouth.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    2 arrests for possesion of alcohol by a minor and a positive drug test will lower your grade, yes top talent but with maturity issues. What happens when he gets paid? That is what you dont see on tape.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    What tape did he watch to move Dareus from out of his top five dt's up to number one ?????
    The Bills will probably end up hiring this guy.

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    Re: Russ Lande Dropping Robert Quinn Out of Round 1

    That's nuts.

    Quinn is tops on my list of "guys I'd most like to see the Patriots draft". However, I know they have no shot at him, because he will go top 10, maybe even top 5. I know he missed games due to suspension, but I don't know how you can look at that guy and not see him as an elite prospect. He screams it.

    The fact the guy said he let the combine performance effect his grade is telling. People totally overrate the combine. Teams have been grading these guys since they were freshman, so them running around in shorts isn't going to effect the grade that dramatically. Typically draftnik crap. Unless he has some new off-field stuff found out or had poor interviews at the combine, his grade isn't changing.

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