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    Tom Modrak is back!

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    If you ask almost any Bills fan who was to blame for the Bills most universally horrible drafts before Buddy Nix rode into town the answer you’ll most often here in Tom Modrak. Now of course these aren’t Modrak’s fault, after all he wasn’t even the GM. However when he was brought into Buffalo as a draft wizard of sorts, he had spent time with Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and had done great things in their drafts for them.
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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    interesting to see what Nix will do

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Well, no point in wasting money on Blesto anymore.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    I don't understand why people insist on defending anyone associated with the Bills post- 2000.

    Ralph, Donahoe, Modrak, Guy, Overdorf, Brandon, Marv- they all have the proverbial blood on their hands.

    And just for the record, I'm a huge fan of what Marv did as a coach, but I can't let that cloud my observation over his failed tenure as GM.

    As far as the original topic goes, I really don't see it as a big deal at all. Modrak is one staffer working for a scouting service that the Bills use as part of their analysis. I'd prefer that he had no hand in it whatsoever, but he has no decision-making authority and is only one of many sources of information for player evaluation. It's too small of a link to get upset about.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    and btw it's not often that we get a MR thread title of the day in BZ, but we got one today!

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Ugh.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Eh - it's the old thing...an ounce of pull is worth a pound of push.
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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    and btw it's not often that we get a MR thread title of the day in BZ, but we got one today!
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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Kind of mis-leading title.

    he was hired by a scouting service. I seriously doubt the Bills go on blind faith of any service.... So it stil comes down to our own scouts, and Nix/Whaley


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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Looks like a service that's about as useful to NFL teams as Mel Kiper and other draft "geniuses". I'm sure the Bills, and every other NFL team for that matter, will trust their own scouts over that.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I don't understand why people insist on defending anyone associated with the Bills post- 2000.

    Ralph, Donahoe, Modrak, Guy, Overdorf, Brandon, Marv- they all have the proverbial blood on their hands.

    And just for the record, I'm a huge fan of what Marv did as a coach, but I can't let that cloud my observation over his failed tenure as GM.

    As far as the original topic goes, I really don't see it as a big deal at all. Modrak is one staffer working for a scouting service that the Bills use as part of their analysis. I'd prefer that he had no hand in it whatsoever, but he has no decision-making authority and is only one of many sources of information for player evaluation. It's too small of a link to get upset about.
    Not one staffer, he is the Director of Scouting.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by ddaryl View Post
    Kind of mis-leading title.

    he was hired by a scouting service. I seriously doubt the Bills go on blind faith of any service.... So it stil comes down to our own scouts, and Nix/Whaley

    Not really mis-leading. He's back involved and has a direction connection to Bills scouting and draft, no?

    He was hired by a scouting service the Bills subscribe to, do you think they subscribe to a service they have no use for?

    Now do I think BLESTO is the end all be all for the Bills scouting? No, but I dont think the opposite is correct either. I think BLESTO plays it role with the amount of rankings and reports they give to their subscribers.
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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Looks like a service that's about as useful to NFL teams as Mel Kiper and other draft "geniuses". I'm sure the Bills, and every other NFL team for that matter, will trust their own scouts over that.

    That would be false.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    This thread title is bunk.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    As a subscriber, the Bills get info on players from Blesto, but the Bills supplement that with a lot of info from their own scouts and research, then it's the Bills responsibility to take that info and use their best judgment on who to draft when their turn comes up. As has been stated already, there is plenty of blame to go around for the bad drafts prior to Buddy Nix being named as GM. Modrak deserves some of it, but so do a lot of others. I see no point in carrying a grudge over it.
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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Buffalo has been a member of BLESTO from the start, I believe, and the fact that they've had some great drafts and some really terrible ones over the years should be evidence that their own staff has a greater impact than the service.
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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    It's time for the Bills to cancel their subscription with BLESTO.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    I don't think Modrak was the one who drafted Mike Williams, Tim Anderson, Aaron Maybin, etc., so who knows what his thoughts were on those selections. He may have been against them.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Buffalo has been a member of BLESTO from the start, I believe, and the fact that they've had some great drafts and some really terrible ones over the years should be evidence that their own staff has a greater impact than the service.
    Maybe, like I've said over and over again we don't know how much impact BLESTO has had with past regimes or this one. We know the Bills use them, we know the Bills scout (CJ Leak) is the BLESTO scout for us. We also now know that Tom Modrak will be the director of scouting for those rankings and reports. That's the extent to what we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132 View Post
    I don't think Modrak was the one who drafted Mike Williams, Tim Anderson, Aaron Maybin, etc., so who knows what his thoughts were on those selections. He may have been against them.
    Absolutely, Ive always thought Modrak has been the scapegoat for many poor selections.

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    Re: Tom Modrak is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post

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    Absolutely, Ive always thought Modrak has been the scapegoat for many poor selections.
    Well, obviously Nix does not think much of Modracks ability because he fired him.

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