Pegula

[DesertFox24]

I posed this question in the thread about Pegula selling assets for 1.75 billion, but thought it would get more attention in its own thread.

I live in Nevada and am a NY Rangers fan, I route for the sabers to be good because I want Buffalo to get a championship and if the rangers cannot do it then I want the sabers to do it.

That being said we all know Pegula will keep the team in Buffalo so win right there.

How involved is he with the sabers, is he a Jerry Jones where he tells them what to do or is he more of a Rooney guy and lets the GM he hires run the football team and then hold that guy accountable for wins/losses/draft hits misses.

Also what do saber fans think of Pegula as an owner. From what I have seen in the past people liked him at first because he was willing to spend money, although that does not seem to have helped them. Please understand I do not know the intricate details of the sabers and am not insulting anyone, I am asking because I am trying to gauge the guy.

What I dont want is Golisano buying the team and being a cheap arse and then selling the team in 15 years for a huge profit.

I think Pegula will keep the team and probably pass down to his kids if he has any.

[coastal]

He hung Pat Lafontaine out to dry and hires cronies to spy for him.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Sabres

[THATHURMANATOR]

He appears to sit back and let managment do there thing.

I do agree the Lafontaine thing was weird though.

Either way of course my only prefered option to buy the Bills.

[DesertFox24]

Sabres

My bad, sorry for that I did not catch that.

[DesertFox24]

He appears to sit back and let managment do there thing.

I do agree the Lafontaine thing was weird though.

Either way of course my only prefered option to buy the Bills.

Can I get a cliff notes on the Lafontaine deal and what Laftontaine did for teh sabres, sorry.

Literally no sabres or really hockey news at here unless San Jose Sharks

[Dr. Lecter]

Or maybe LaFontaine did not get his way and threw a temper tantrum.

Nobody seems to know what happened.

Pegula has good intentions. I don't think spending money will be an issue for him, although spending NFL money is different than NHL money. He can be a bit of a fanboy and too devoted to emplyees.

[Fletch]

Or maybe LaFontaine did not get his way and threw a temper tantrum.

Nobody seems to know what happened.

Pegula has good intentions. I don't think spending money will be an issue for him, although spending NFL money is different than NHL money. He can be a bit of a fanboy and too devoted to emplyees.

Not being familiar with Sabres hockey or the Pat Lafontaine affair, did he leave the existing front office in place there?

Is there any evidence that he would can the the biggest front office fixtures on the Bills?

He clearly has enough money to pay for a decent head coach and GM.

[OpIv37]

When Pegula took over, he left GM Darcy Regier in place. Regier was trying to build a team around Roy, Pominville, Vanek and Miller, and the prevailing thought was that Regier knew what he was doing but was held back by Golisano's cheapness.

So, Pegula believed the hype. He opened the checkbook and let Darcy go to town. The results were dismal. He overpaid for Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. The team sucked and now Darcy's gone along with coach Lindy Ruff and every single player I just mentioned. They were the worst team in the NHL last year and are rebuilding from scratch.

My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.

[Yasgur's Farm]

Sorry fox... Had to do it.

My bad, sorry for that I did not catch that.

[trapezeus]

When Pegula took over, he left GM Darcy Regier in place. Regier was trying to build a team around Roy, Pominville, Vanek and Miller, and the prevailing thought was that Regier knew what he was doing but was held back by Golisano's cheapness.

So, Pegula believed the hype. He opened the checkbook and let Darcy go to town. The results were dismal. He overpaid for Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. The team sucked and now Darcy's gone along with coach Lindy Ruff and every single player I just mentioned. They were the worst team in the NHL last year and are rebuilding from scratch.

My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.

agreed, but i wouldn't be upset if littman stayed. he seems to be a cap genius and every team should have someone who really gets it.

[Ginger Vitis]

agreed, but i wouldn't be upset if littman stayed. he seems to be a cap genius and every team should have someone who really gets it.

It has been said Polian and Littman had troubles seeing eye to eye at the end of polians tenure in Buffalo.. Littman I think is easily disposable and thought Jim Overdorf was the cap guy and he is easily disposableas well

[Fletch]

My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.

Well, but here's the thing, he's got over a decade of history of Brandon and Wilson's other cronies leading us to record-setting performance futility. He would have no reason to buy into Brandon's, Whaley's, Littman's, Overdorf's, or Majeski's bullsiht. They've only proven themselves losers in administrating in such a way as to create a winning team.

During Regier's time as GM he had 12 winning seasons, been to the playoffs 8 or 9 times and even went to the Stanleys once.

Since and including the 2000 season the Bills have had only one winning season and haven't been to the playoffs at all.

I don't see how he can possibly be blind to the fact that it's been the aforementioned people that are the problem. Plus, he's a fan and hopefully realizes this.

[Skooby]

When Pegula took over, he left GM Darcy Regier in place. Regier was trying to build a team around Roy, Pominville, Vanek and Miller, and the prevailing thought was that Regier knew what he was doing but was held back by Golisano's cheapness.

So, Pegula believed the hype. He opened the checkbook and let Darcy go to town. The results were dismal. He overpaid for Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff. The team sucked and now Darcy's gone along with coach Lindy Ruff and every single player I just mentioned. They were the worst team in the NHL last year and are rebuilding from scratch.

My biggest fear with Pegula as Bills owner is that he didn't learn and makes the same mistake by leaving Brandon and his lackeys in charge. Brandon only knows how to do things one way: Ralph's way. And we've seen the kind of results that gets.

If Pegula takes over, I want a scorched earth policy. Russ and every single one of his lackeys need to be gone.

Slash & burn doesn't work in the NFL until you get a new GM, so you're basically saying you want Whaley's head on a silver platter ?

[Fletch]

It has been said Polian and Littman had troubles seeing eye to eye at the end of polians tenure in Buffalo.. Littman I think is easily disposable and thought Jim Overdorf was the cap guy and he is easily disposableas well

Cap Guys are a dime a dozen. Don't we have one or two here?

[Fletch]

Slash & burn doesn't work in the NFL until you get a new GM, so you're basically saying you want Whaley's head on a silver platter ?

Wouldn't you if Manuel doesn't work out this season?

I'll say it again.

Whaley gambled on Manuel last year.

In order to recoup his gambling losses this year he doubled down on trying recover that bad gamble by taking an even bigger one.

At the end of this season, if it hasn't paid off, this team will be worse off than ever with no 1st-round pick next year. If it happens to be a 1st or 2nd and if Winston comes out, it will have been disastrous.

If this team finishes a single game behind 7-9 then yes, Whaley should be sent packing. His resume was thin and weak to begin with.

[Skooby]

Wouldn't you if Manuel doesn't work out this season?

I'll say it again.

Whaley gambled on Manuel last year.

In order to recoup his gambling losses this year he doubled down on trying recover that bad gamble by taking an even bigger one.

At the end of this season, if it hasn't paid off, this team will be worse off than ever with no 1st-round pick next year. If it happens to be a 1st or 2nd and if Winston comes out, it will have been disastrous.

If this team finishes a single game behind 7-9 then yes, Whaley should be sent packing. His resume was thin and weak to begin with.

What if the defense is in the top 3 in the league and we finish 6-10 ? You going to torch the GM for a bad QB call (which hasn't happened yet) ?

[Fletch]

Slash & burn doesn't work in the NFL until you get a new GM, so you're basically saying you want Whaley's head on a silver platter ?

By the way, neither does leaving incompetent and negligent ignoramuses in the front office. That's even less likely to produce anything good.

[Fletch]

What if the defense is in the top 3 in the league and we finish 6-10 ? You going to torch the GM for a bad QB call (which hasn't happened yet) ?

Are you saying that's going to happen or even likely to happen?

Let's talk brass tacks here and not just whimsical hypotheticals. IMO the odds of that happening are remote. You're going to see a significant regression in the defense this season, I promise you that.

[Skooby]

Are you saying that's going to happen or even likely to happen?

Let's talk brass tacks here and not just whimsical hypotheticals. IMO the odds of that happening are remote. You're going to see a significant regression in the defense this season, I promise you that.

You're crazier than I thought, if we stay healthy. I think that our opposing offenses will be lucky to score more than 18 points on average, that means our offense to score.