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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Cassel is a reasonable vet who will preferably be a backup. Some veteran qb needed to be brought in.
    According to Alex Marvel of FOX sports, compensation is the Bucs fifth round pick that the Bills acquired in trade and a 2016 seventh.
    Bills get back the Vikings' sixth, this year I think.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Kyle Orton, who retired, was on books for $5.5M in 2015, so the #Bills save $750K in switch from Orton to Matt Cassel.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolBreeze View Post
    Just saying sir, if you're going to poke the bear at least do it correctly
    Apples and oranges, he still sucks.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Is it safe to assume that the Bills are getting a higher pick back from the Vikings than what they are giving up for the privilege of taking Cassel's contract off of the Vikings books?

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Cassel is a reasonable vet who will preferably be a backup. Some veteran qb needed to be brought in.
    According to Alex Marvel of FOX sports, compensation is the Bucs fifth round pick that the Bills acquired in trade and a 2016 seventh.
    Bills get back the Vikings' sixth, this year I think.
    So we made our draft position worse in a draft where we already lacked picks and took on nearly $5 million against the cap for Cassell?

    Wtf?

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by EDS View Post
    Is it safe to assume that the Bills are getting a higher pick back from the Vikings than what they are giving up for the privilege of taking Cassel's contract off of the Vikings books?

    apparently not, we gave them a 5th and a 7th for Cassel and a 6th.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by EDS View Post
    Is it safe to assume that the Bills are getting a higher pick back from the Vikings than what they are giving up for the privilege of taking Cassel's contract off of the Vikings books?
    Not really. See post #41 above. Or what Kiko just wrote . . . posted same time.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalogic View Post
    Draft pick terms (#Bills get Cassel and a 6th, #Vikings get a 5th and a 7th) now updated:
    What !! How many Bills draft have this year . Bills lost 1st round and 4th round .And pls don't tell me Bills lost a other draft round 5th and 7 th

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    $4.75, That's what a backup QB with starting experience costs in the NFL. Pretty much the same as Orton.

    I still think we'll add another $5+million dollar QB before camp starts.
    If one is scraping the bottom of the barrel for older QBs with similar stats, CIN paid Jason Campbell $1.5 last season.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    I'm actually fine with this. Cassel had his best seasons under Charlie Weis, who used a run heavy, play action offense to set up the pass. That's right there in Roman land.

    They aren't meaning to have a 45 pass attempts per game gunslinging passing offense. Cassel is adequate for what they intend, as interim starter/bridge/backup, whatever.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    So we made our draft position worse in a draft where we already lacked picks and took on nearly $5 million against the cap for Cassell?

    Wtf?
    Evidently OBD views Cassel as an adequate vet qb. I'm not crazy about it, but there's not really anyone out there who is likely available that is all that good.
    I think overall the moves are intriguing. I am optimistic. It certainly isn't the usual m.o.
    Sorry everything is making you as unhappy as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paladin warrior View Post
    What !! How many Bills draft have this year . Bills lost 1st round and 4th round .And pls don't tell me Bills lost a other draft round 5th and 7 th
    The 7th is for 2016. They pick up the Vikes' 6th for this year.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    At least Cassel has alot of experience with screen passes he learned from Patriots. We'll be running a lot of that under Roman anyways.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Wow, of all the qb's that have been considered and discussed, I don't remember anyone mentioning Cassel. I'm not really a fan of this, but here's hoping EJ just steps up and becomes the qb we need. He's still our best chance at this point.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Is that accurate? $5 million!?!?!?

    So, we just spent $14.5 million- half of our available cap- on Cassell and McCoy?

    **** this FO
    What is the the big deal about that?

    OH NO WE SPENT HALF OF OUR AVAILABLE CAP SPACE ON TWO OF OUR BIGGEST NEEDS BOOO HOOO BOOO HOOOO.

    Would you rather they spent it on a punter and long snapper?

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Evidently OBD views Cassel as an adequate vet qb. I'm not crazy about it, but there's not really anyone out there who is likely available that is all that good.
    I think overall the moves are intriguing. I am optimistic. It certainly isn't the usual m.o.
    Sorry everything is making you as unhappy as usual.
    It's not about me. It's about winning football games. Is the difference between Cassell and one of the FA QB's worth the extra cap hit AND swapping a 5th for 6th?

    I fail to see how it is.

    If we signed Cassell as an FA for $3 million or less, I wouldn't be thrilled but I would understand due to the lack of available QB's. But he's not so much better than the other options that it was worth giving up that much for him.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Wow, of all the qb's that have been considered and discussed, I don't remember anyone mentioning Cassel. I'm not really a fan of this, but here's hoping EJ just steps up and becomes the qb we need. He's still our best chance at this point.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by BleedinGreenNC View Post
    Apples and oranges, he still sucks.
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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
    What is the the big deal about that?

    OH NO WE SPENT HALF OF OUR AVAILABLE CAP SPACE ON TWO OF OUR BIGGEST NEEDS BOOO HOOO BOOO HOOOO.

    Would you rather they spent it on a punter and long snapper?
    What is the big deal about that?

    We spent way too much to do it and it's going to kill our ability to meet other needs. Qb and rb are useless without an OL. We need to fix ours and have severely hampered our ability to do it with these moves.

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    Re: Bills trade for Matt Cassel

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiko View Post
    apparently not, we gave them a 5th and a 7th for Cassel and a 6th.
    And a valuable 5th round pick it is. After flushing millions down the toilet in buying WR Mike Williams, BUF got TB's pick. Mind, it was the #1 pick in the 5th round. But now it seems, that valuable commodity is gone.

    Oh, the agony...

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