Could have, should have.Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho
The Bills could/should have drafted Tom Brady & Brett Favre. But they didn't.
So today, who is offering anything for what the Browns did get in that trade?
I think Atlanta is still happy to have Jones.
Dez Bryant was franchise tagged (non-exclusive) this year. This means that any team can sign him to a contract and give up 2 1st round picks to get him. Why has nobody done this? Maybe it's because Dez isn't worth 2 1st round picks? Dez is a better receiver than Sammy, right?
Demaryius Thomas was also franchised, no team is signing him either.
When is the last time an NFL team (other than the team who tagged the player) signed any franchised player, regardless of position? I can't remember one instance. Even 'franchise-able' caliber players are not considered worthy of 2 1st round picks. These are players that have proven themselves to be the top tier of their respective positions. How anyone can say Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks as well as a 4th is beyond me.
If we didn't draft Sammy, would you want to give up 2 1st round picks for Dez? Or Demaryius?
I don't think the draft picks is the reason teams don't want to sign Dez.
It is the fact Dez is an AHOLE with off field issues & he will want a LOT of money to sign with another team.
Hell even the Cowboys don't want to give Dez a long term contract & that is why he was tagged.
No because you would also have to pay out a lot of money in that process.
The Bills have Sammy tied up on a low money contract for 5 years.
There have been plenty of respectable WRs who've been franchise tagged and not signed to contracts by other teams, like Demaryius.
The Browns didn't win more games a result of the picks they got in return for The Julio Jones trade-up. That had absolutely nothing to do with it.
I'd MUCH rather have Julio Jones than all the players the Browns got, and so would anybody else that looks at it.
It's a very simple true point, but one that you don't want to allow me to make for some reason. Don't know why you want to harp on about something completely unrelated instead of just conceding my rather simple point. Anyway the Falcons went 13-3, and made it to the Championship game in Jones' second year...he had a killer game too. I think he had about 180 yards receiving in that game where the Falcons almost made it to the Super Bowl.
It's only low money for 4 years.
Wouldn't it be awesome to only have used 1 1st round pick on a young probowl caliber WR? Like the Cowboys did with Dez, or the Broncos did with Demaryius, or the Lions with Calvin, or Packers with Jordy or Cobb, or the Bucs with Evans, or the Giants with Beckham, or the Panthers with Benjamin, or blah blah with blah.
Pretty cool what can happen with a great WR when you have a probowl QB throwing him the ball. Kind of makes you wonder if you should try to get one before spending extra resources to get the other, no?
Technically, Matt Cassel is a Probowl quarterback. He played in one.
It's not so easy to find an All-Pro QB due to supply and demand. We weren't going to get a QB with what we gave up for Sammy, anyway, which is what this thread is about. I'm not going to sit here and whine about that trade. I'm glad Watkins is on the team. He's bound to make whoever plays QB better.
better days (04-20-2015)
The 2010 probowl isn't really relevant today, but I can see the flaw you pointed out with my statement. However, Cassel wasn't on this team when we traded for Sammy, and he still hasn't played a down for us and there's a small possibility that he never will.
This thread is about the ridiculous premise that we'd draft a QB with the 19th pick that we would have had. My original point was that there are other ways we could have improved this team besides a QB at 19.
So you're just going to whine about the people whining then?
So am I.
Because Thomas wants more money than he is worth.
Which proves the point, Sammy was worth the two first rnd picks because the Bills have him on the cheap for 5 years.
Yes it would be awesome if the Bills could have gotten Sammy with only one first rnd pick. But that was not going to happen.
So it is awesome Sammy is a Bill even though it cost two first rnd picks IMO.
If the Bills did not make that trade for Sammy, the Bills would now have Eric Ebron & the #19 pick in this draft.
I would rather have Sammy.
And it is a low cost contract for the full 5 years in comparison to what Sammy would make in year 5 if the Bills did not have the option for that 5th year.
Last edited by better days; 04-20-2015 at 11:11 AM.
Unless you jack Thomas' year 1 cap hit through the roof, you couldn't get him. Denver has over $20 million in potential cap savings next year just from Manning retiring and cutting Ware.
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The 2010 Pro Bowl isn't relevant to today? LOL.
Ok, Ralph.
Then so be it.
Pure speculation.
The point is that no other team is willing to give up 2 1sts for Demaryius, not just the Bills. If Sammy is worth 2 1st round picks and a 4th, why is Demaryius Thomas not worth 2 1sts? Probably because receivers aren't worth 2 1st round draft picks.
How many 1st round picks did Seattle use on their WRs who played in the Super Bowl last year? What about New England?
We don't have the 2010 Matt Cassel on our team, do we?
Maybe
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