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    Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Strange move, he was part of the Chandler Jones trade just a few months back and was a top 10 pick only a few years ago. He's healthy now, Id say it's worth a look.


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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Funny indeed. This story posted in the Boston Herald less than 24 hours ago:

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/patri..._to_contribute


    And the Bills play the Pats again October 30th. Taking a look sounds like a good idea.
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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Yeah, bring him in for a cup of coffee...couldn't hurt.
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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    He sucks, even when healthy.

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    Bring him in and waterboard him for information.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    hes probably another mike williams 2 teams normally arent wrong when getting rid of 7th overall in 3 years

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    If 2 teams gave up on him already...chances are...HE'S NOT GOOD !

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    If 2 teams gave up on him already...chances are...HE'S NOT GOOD !
    Then he'll have no problem fitting in on the Bill O-line.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    I think before they start offering up plaudits to the o-line again due to # of rushing yards, try backing out all the QB yardage before you judge the line.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Because those yards don't count?
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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Because those yards don't count?
    Are you baiting me? They only count if it's a called QB run. The scrambling yards, which are most for Taylor, shouldn't count toward judging the quality of the o-line. And he had/has a lot of broken play yardage.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    I think before they start offering up plaudits to the o-line again due to # of rushing yards, try backing out all the QB yardage before you judge the line.
    Over 6 yards a carry for the RBs vs the Cards and around 4 vs the Pats. Not that I think the Bill O-line is great, but, they have done pretty good at run blocking the last 2 weeks under Lynn.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by sudzy View Post
    Then he'll have no problem fitting in on the Bill O-line.
    what?

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    hes probably another mike williams 2 teams normally arent wrong when getting rid of 7th overall in 3 years
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    If 2 teams gave up on him already...chances are...HE'S NOT GOOD !
    The Cards traded him for a pro bowl pass rusher, I wouldn't say they "gave up" on him any more than we "gave up" on Kiko Alonso. They threw him in to acquire a better, established player. Also, FWIW, how many teams gave up on Ritchie Incognito?

    He young, he's cheap now without a top 10 pick contract, and I think he still has potential.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    I cant imagine the Cards wouldn't file a claim.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    The Cards traded him for a pro bowl pass rusher, I wouldn't say they "gave up" on him any more than we "gave up" on Kiko Alonso. They threw him in to acquire a better, established player. Also, FWIW, how many teams gave up on Ritchie Incognito?

    He young, he's cheap now without a top 10 pick contract, and I think he still has potential.
    Sometimes, a trade IS giving up on a player they know isn't very good. Does Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes ring a bell ? Incognito could play but had an incident. That's a terrible example of making your point, whatever it is.

    The Pats, who are worshiped by many here, gave up on him. Speaks volumes.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Train View Post
    Sometimes, a trade IS giving up on a player they know isn't very good. Does Kelvin Sheppard for Jerry Hughes ring a bell ?
    Hughes came to a new situation, threw off the "bust" tag and thrived. Is that really the example you want to use?

    Incognito could play but had an incident. That's a terrible example of making your point, whatever it is.
    Incognito was let go twice before his incident, including one by the Bills.
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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    Classic bad move ny the Pats. They win so no one cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Classic bad move ny the Pats. They win so no one cares.
    They end up with a 2nd also. Which they traded down and drafted starting LG Joe Thuney and back up WR Malcolm Mitchell. And with the Cap savings they sign Long and extended Hightower. So it wasn't a total waste.

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    Re: Pats release Jonathan Cooper

    He already got claimed.

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