kgun12 (04-08-2024)
DraftBoy (04-10-2024)
Kinda suprised Ricky Pearsall of FLorida isn't on the list.
900 yards last year for the Gators.
Athletically, he's there. If you are a RAS, guy, he scored a 9.78.
6'01" 190 lbs.
4.41 forty, which is equal to Troy Franklin.
42" vertical
6.64 cone
4.05 shuttle
known as a very good route runner and great hands. Dropped 6 balls in his career.
Had the best catch in college footall last year (right at the beginning of the vid).
knocks on him are that he might have trouble against press coverage, but then most college WRs do.
He might not do one thing great (except his hands..which are great), but he does many things very well.
He checks a good deal of boxes. I doubt he makes it to 60.
YardRat (04-13-2024)
McConkey AND Tez?
kgun12 (04-08-2024)
Kinda suprised Ricky Pearsall of FLorida isn't on the list.
900 yards last year for the Gators.
Athletically, he's there. If you are a RAS, guy, he scored a 9.78.
6'01" 190 lbs.
4.41 forty, which is equal to Troy Franklin.
42" vertical
6.64 cone
4.05 shuttle
known as a very good route runner and great hands. Dropped 6 balls in his career.
Had the best catch in college footall last year (right at the beginning of the vid).
knocks on him are that he might have trouble against press coverage, but then most college WRs do.
He might not do one thing great (except his hands..which are great), but he does many things very well.
He checks a good deal of boxes. I doubt he makes it to 60.
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I just don't see it with Caleb Williams, he reminds me of Zach Wilson; I didn't see it with him either. He benefits from a lot of junk you can get away with in college, and really loathes throwing the ball into tight coverages; I keep watching film trying to figure out why so many people are so high on him and it just doesn't make sense to me, he has really poor feel for the pocket, and got sacked/hit way too much waiting for a WR get "college open". Never was on board with the Nix, Penix or Maye... this is just an underwhelming QB class.
For the record, I pay attention to two analysts rankings and grading. Scouts Inc. (ESPN) and Dane Brugler, The Athletic. The both offer up their Top 100 players irrespective of position and within that the position rank. Scout's Inc. provides a grade.
Both of them have more or less the same players within their top 100. Scou7ts Inc has two (#92 & #96) that Brugler does not.
Although they do not match up perfectly with overall ranked, they DO match 100% in position rank of the top 17 WR's.
Scouts Inc. OVL Rank Scouts Inc. WR Rank Scouts Inc. Grade Dane Brugler OVL Rank Dane Brugler WR Rank Marvin Harrison 2 1 95 2 1 Malik Nabers 4 2 94 3 2 Rome Odunze 7 3 93 7 3 Adonai Mitchell 23 4 90 14 4 Brian Thomas 24 5 90 28 5 Xavier Legette 28 6 89 34 6 Ladd McConkey 29 7 88 35 7 Xavier Worthy 33 8 87 40 8 Keon Coleman 37 9 87 45 9 Ricky Pearsall 45 10 85 46 10 Troy Frankin 52 11 84 49 11 Roman Wilson 70 12 79 54 12 Brenden Rice 80 13 78 64 13 Jalen McMillian 81 14 77 65 14 Malachi Corley 82 15 77 78 15 Javon Baker 86 16 77 80 16 Devontez Walker 88 17 76 97 17 Ja'Lynn Polk 92 18 75 Jermaine Burton 96 19 74
Last year I kept track of Scout's Inc overall rank and position rank, and the actual draft results. The first six WR chosen they were pretty close on overall rank. What was amazing is that they pegged the order the WR's would go extremely closely.
Almost all of them were right on or off by one position. They had Smith-Njigba and Zay Flowers as first two off the board, which they were.
The next three were slightly off.
3rd off the board was Jordan Addison, Scouts had him going 4th. 4th off the board was Quentin Johnson, Scouts had him going 3rd. 5th off was Jonathan Mingo, Scouts had him going 6th.
I suspect they will be similarly accurate for 2024.
kgun12 (04-09-2024)
i suspect the reason we traded diggs is because the bills probably have 8-9 WRs all given a high to mid first round grade this year and they just don't see how they'll all be gone by the time we draft.
He doesn’t play anywhere near the level of speed or athleticism that he tests at which I would bet is why you’re not seeing him higher. Hands are great, but lots of doubts about if he has the quickness to slip coverage a slot guy in the NFL. He has shown some route manipulation to beat defenses in the SEC, but he’ll need to prove that is truly intentional on the white board and in visits as opposed to an under developed route tree.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Lecter
That was one hell of a stickum catch, cookie.
Maybe. I've seen a few people say it early on. But idk, I found a YT video last week that had every catch and target for him. The times he looked "slow" or at least not-so -fast, were the times he was moving into a soft area of a zone. That's a completely different type of route. Many of the catches when he did so were late. IF the QB would have gotten him the ball earlier, you would have probably seen more YAC.
I have no idea how he is going deep, since he wasn't used that way very often.
Most people I see had him ranked between 8-10 WR, which in this year is pretty good. I think his stock has risen after the Senior Bowl.
Its why it surprised me that he wasn't in the top 15. But then, its a SB Nation article.
IF all he can do is play short or intermediate routes, we got enough guys in the middle of the field in the 5-15 yard range.
But I really don't know how good he is at the deep ball.