Keon Coleman

[Mad Max]

IMO , Bean had Worthy ,Legette, Coleman in the same group. Whoever KC and Panthers didn't pick we would've taken at 33 and pretend he was our guy all along.

They’re three completely different players so why would Beane lump all of them together?

[justasportsfan]

They’re three completely different players so why would Beane lump all of them together?

Maybe sifferent skill set but same value.

I'm assuming he would've said Worthy would be the speed guy to go over the top and made some excuse for Xavier.

He didn't drop down knowing Coleman would've been there at 32.

[Novacane]

But, that so many teams drafted other WRs in front of him, doesn't exactly seem like the other teams thought enough about him to take him in the first. We'll see.

That could be said every year. There were 4 WR taken before Justin Jefferson. You think there's 6 teams that would change their 2018 pick to Josh Allen if they had the chance?

[Novacane]

Where would Puca Nacua go if last years draft was redone? All the hand wringing over taking the wrong player is just farting in the wind. No one knows where this story will go.

[Mad Max]

Why might some not like his interview?

NOBODY doesn’t like that interview. “Nah, Macy’s…whatchoo mean?” LMAO

https://youtu.be/dPaRM3CwClE?feature=shared


if you haven’t seen the interview, do yourself a favor and watch it…it’ll bring a smile to your face.


The kid is winning hearts from fans of teams all across the league from this interview alone.

If he ends up good on the field bro is gonna make ALL the money in endorsements.

Read these comments on Reddit. Note the fan allegiances of the posters (hint most aren’t Bills fans).

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/QdUPX0R275

[sahlensguy]

NOBODY doesn’t like that interview.

Ghz said that he could see how some ppl might not like it.

He's already one of my favorite Bills.

Can't imagine what ghz saw, so I asked.

[Mad Max]

Ghz said that he could see how some ppl might not like it.

He's already one of my favorite Bills.

Can't imagine what ghz saw, so I asked.

I know you saw it. My post was just linked off yours for those who haven’t seen it.

[YardRat]

Yeah, I don't see how anybody would have an issue with his interview.

Here's to hoping we struck gold and everybody that snagged a receiver before us ends up saying "why didn't we take him instead?"

[DraftBoy]

I think with Coleman you’re hoping for an Eric Moulds type development with his route running becoming his main focus. If you get that then you got a steal.

If not then you’re potential getting a Kelvin Benjamin type. Though I do think Coleman’s burst and agility is better than Benjamin.

Benjamin -
40 - 4.61
10S - 1.62
Vertical - 32.5
Broad - 119

Coleman -
40 - 4.61
10S - 1.54
Vertical - 38
Broad - 127

[ghz in pittsburgh]

There are reports his team interviews do not go well. To reporters, talking about Macy's clothes, sharing cookies are fun and genuine stuff. But I know there are management types looking all of those seemingly innocent details and wondering why this guy is not 100% on football in this setting, or lack of self control eating stuff like cookies.

[sahlensguy]

Wow.

Keon was asked about his jacket as he was sitting down, at his 1st formal interview as a pro. It was a fine response and when the football questions came he did great. I know a well spoken 20 year old athlete can put some people on edge, but still...

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I think with Coleman you’re hoping for an Eric Moulds type development with his route running becoming his main focus. If you get that then you got a steal.

If not then you’re potential getting a Kelvin Benjamin type. Though I do think Coleman’s burst and agility is better than Benjamin.

Benjamin -
40 - 4.61
10S - 1.62
Vertical - 32.5
Broad - 119

Coleman -
40 - 4.61
10S - 1.54
Vertical - 38
Broad - 127

DHop -
40 - 4.57
10S = 1.59
vertical - 36
broad - 115

Supposedly Coleman improved his 40 yard speed to 4.5x range in his pro day. I still believe his ceiling is DHop, creating separation using intelligence and physicality just like DHop did in his career. For example, one of the trademark move is DHop routinely sets up back-shoulder catches by allowing the cornerback to get on top of him and then boxing them out. There is no reason Coleman can't copy that move.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Coleman is raw. There are reviews out there from his Seminoles tape that it seems a lot of his plays have no route concept at all. Pretty much we move everyone to give you space, and then we lob the ball up and you go up to dunk on them. And he did that successfully. I'd imagine Brady saw that and say "imagine if we get him to run routes..." whereas Josh saw that the say "Imagine in rezone where I have no place to go with the ball ..."

[ghz in pittsburgh]

And the other side of the coin is also true: Andy Reid says "I don't want to find out if Coleman can run routes, but I can imagine Worthy running free ..."

[sahlensguy]

Beane sucks at drafting wrs. He traded back one spot with Carolina, foregoing the 5th year option on Coleman. He's not even confident enough in himself to be sure Coleman will last past his 4th year.

[cookie G]

I think with Coleman you’re hoping for an Eric Moulds type development with his route running becoming his main focus. If you get that then you got a steal.

If not then you’re potential getting a Kelvin Benjamin type. Though I do think Coleman’s burst and agility is better than Benjamin.

Benjamin -
40 - 4.61
10S - 1.62
Vertical - 32.5
Broad - 119

Coleman -
40 - 4.61
10S - 1.54
Vertical - 38
Broad - 127

yeah, the pro comps are always a little fun, as long as they are taken with a grain of salt.

There was one over the weekend I considered.

I'll give Lance Zierlien's review of the guy I was thinking of:


40-Yard Dash 4.53

10-Yard Split 1.55

Vertical Jump 38.5’’
Broad Jump 10’ 2’’
Bench Press 27

Overview

Back-shoulder boss who thrives with contested catch opportunities outside the numbers but lacks explosive traits. Ability to body-up opponents and win with ball skills is undeniable, but his inability to find a threatening top gear or shake loose from tight man coverage must be accounted for within his new employer's scheme. His experience playing inside should help and teams will love his impact as a run-blocker. His competitiveness and ability to come down with the ball could make him a productive member of wide receiver trio in short order.

Strengths

Highly competitive at everything he does. Consistently productive over three seasons. Fearless play demeanor with alpha swagger. Uses hands to swat coverage jam and release from press. Big, presentable target on slants and in zone work. Leverages and stems his way to open catch space. Plays with patience and poise to win combat catches. Strong hands and well-respected ball skills. Outworks opponents to carve out work space in tight quarters. Wins jump balls with well-timed leaps and frame to shield the finish. Stiff-arm getaways after the catch. Junkyard dog who is willing to scrap as a blocker. Can clinch and manhandle finesse corners in space.

Weaknesses

Feet not quick enough in stutter-release vs. press. Tends to wear tight, press coverage for much of the route. Downhill speed fails to threaten most cornerbacks. NFL corners likely to squat on and squeeze his breaks and turns. Too upright slowing his route breaks. Suffered from a few focus drops headed into traffic. Needs better urgency getting up the field after catch. Below-average stop-start quickness to elude and accelerate. Wasn't a major factor in red zone.

Sources Tell Us

"All this talk about (his lack of) separation is overdone. In the league, nobody gets that much separation anyway. You have to know how to use your body and route leverage and you need strong hands. From what I've seen of him, he does all that stuff well." -- Wide receivers coach with AFC team

Hint 1: Its not Gabe Davis

Hint 2: He was drafted around the same area of the draft.

[sukie]

Beane sucks at drafting wrs. He traded back one spot with Carolina, foregoing the 5th year option on Coleman. He's not even confident enough in himself to be sure Coleman will last past his 4th year.

From what I read it was possibly a cost saving move and if Keon brings it… he will be extended after year 3

[YardRat]

There are reports his team interviews do not go well. To reporters, talking about Macy's clothes, sharing cookies are fun and genuine stuff. But I know there are management types looking all of those seemingly innocent details and wondering why this guy is not 100% on football in this setting, or lack of self control eating stuff like cookies.

His football responses were fine, pretty good actually.

Coleman is raw. There are reviews out there from his Seminoles tape that it seems a lot of his plays have no route concept at all. Pretty much we move everyone to give you space, and then we lob the ball up and you go up to dunk on them. And he did that successfully. I'd imagine Brady saw that and say "imagine if we get him to run routes..." whereas Josh saw that the say "Imagine in rezone where I have no place to go with the ball ..."

He addressed that in the press conference, specifically a receiver's responsibilities in an Air Raid offense like the Seminoles run versus the Pro style of Michigan State.

[sahlensguy]

From what I read it was possibly a cost saving move and if Keon brings it… he will be extended after year 3

Sends a terrible message to the organization if they need to save on that cost.

[YardRat]

Hint 1: Its not Gabe Davis

Hint 2: He was drafted around the same area of the draft.

Ooh! Ooh!!