According to Paul Hamilton - - Troy Vincent is...

**Ebenezer** · 08-25-2004, 07:38 AM

stretching the truth just a little. It appears the hit on Losman was intentional. Paul Hamilton reports he was about 10 feet from the incident and that they did more than "click shoulderpads". Losman cut inside and was letting up figuring he was not going to be hit. Vincent put his shoulder into him and knocked him down. Hamilton reports there is some grumbling that Losman was rubbing players the wrong way because he was not sliding during preseason games and that he is cocky. He reports this was a "sending a message hit" but believes there was no intent to injure...

...way to go Mr. "Union President" Vincent

**BAM** · 08-25-2004, 07:40 AM

Here we go again.

What's funny is ... everyone that was there saw something different. L O L.

**justasportsfan** · 08-25-2004, 07:43 AM

That's a painful lesson for JP as far as scrambling too much is concerned.

"...way to go Mr. "Union President" Vincent"
No need to react so soon Mikey. That's his version.

**Michael82** · 08-25-2004, 07:50 AM

That's why WGR has turned to hell....even their beat reporter is out to cause controversy. I've been very disappointed with WGR for the training camp stuff this year and I believe Paul Hamilton is full of crap! He should stick with the ****ing Sabres.

**justasportsfan** · 08-25-2004, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Mikey82

That's why WGR has turned to hell....even their beat reporter is out to cause controversy. I've been very disappointed with WGR for the training camp stuff this year and I believe Paul Hamilton is full of crap! He should stick with the ****ing Sabres.

Good observation, EB

**FTG** · 08-25-2004, 08:03 AM

I agree JP needed to learn to get the hell out of bounds but Losman had a red jersey on. Vincent should not have touched him at all. That jerk better have 10 int's this year

**Pride** · 08-25-2004, 08:09 AM

I am pretty sure that even with a red jersey on, if the QB crosses the line of scrimmage, he is fair game. If that IS indeed the case, I have no problem with it.

JP shouldnt be running like he is, should be sliding if he does, and broken legs are not everyday injuries.

This also ensures he doesnt play this year on the field... and the QB controversy was just stopped dead in its tracks.

**doug45** · 08-25-2004, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by FTG

I agree JP needed to learn to get the hell out of bounds but Losman had a red jersey on. Vincent should not have touched him at all. That jerk better have 10 int's this year

I was happy to see a QB with a little guts. He will learn but this isn't the way.

**Ebenezer** · 08-25-2004, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Pride

I am pretty sure that even with a red jersey on, if the QB crosses the line of scrimmage, he is fair game. If that IS indeed the case, I have no problem with it.

JP shouldnt be running like he is, should be sliding if he does, and broken legs are not everyday injuries.

This also ensures he doesnt play this year on the field... and the QB controversy was just stopped dead in its tracks.

The QBs are off limits...

**FTG** · 08-25-2004, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Pride

I am pretty sure that even with a red jersey on, if the QB crosses the line of scrimmage, he is fair game. If that IS indeed the case, I have no problem with it.

JP shouldnt be running like he is, should be sliding if he does, and broken legs are not everyday injuries.

This also ensures he doesnt play this year on the field... and the QB controversy was just stopped dead in its tracks.

Last I knew red jersey meant don't hit, period.

Also, there was no QB controversy! 2 or 3 people on this board thought JP should start. Thats not a QB controversy.

**Tatonka** · 08-25-2004, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Pride

I am pretty sure that even with a red jersey on, if the QB crosses the line of scrimmage, he is fair game. If that IS indeed the case, I have no problem with it.

JP shouldnt be running like he is, should be sliding if he does, and broken legs are not everyday injuries.

This also ensures he doesnt play this year on the field... and the QB controversy was just stopped dead in its tracks.

all good points... yeah.. if he crosses the line.. he is a rb now.

and yeah.. he should learn to slide.

and yeah.. the controvesy is dead for sure now..

but that is ridiculous about vincent..

yeah.. lets beleive some nobody beat reporter over the guy who was right there..

wonder why we havent heard from losman yet..

again.. some stupid controversy stirred up by the media or an agent, and has nothing to do with the players.

doesnt really matter at this point.. the kid is hurt.. and he got hit because he deserved it.. he is starting to think he is a rb.. well i guess the rb should not have let up when he cut back inside.

**Michael82** · 08-25-2004, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Tatonka

all good points... yeah.. if he crosses the line.. he is a rb now.

and yeah.. he should learn to slide.

and yeah.. the controvesy is dead for sure now..

but that is ridiculous about vincent..

yeah.. lets beleive some nobody beat reporter over the guy who was right there..

wonder why we havent heard from losman yet..

again.. some stupid controversy stirred up by the media or an agent, and has nothing to do with the players.

Thank you!

That's exactly what I've been saying.

**Ebenezer** · 08-25-2004, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by FTG

Last I knew red jersey meant don't hit, period.

Also, there was no QB controversy! 2 or 3 people on this board thought JP should start. Thats not a QB controversy.

JP was far far from ready to play...

**Jan Reimers** · 08-25-2004, 08:24 AM

It's football, and guys get hurt, even by mistake. We all know that TV had no intent to injure JP. It was simply an unfortunate accident.

**Ebenezer** · 08-25-2004, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Tatonka

doesnt really matter at this point.. the kid is hurt.. and he got hit because he deserved it..

you could please explain that one...nobody ever deserves a broken leg at the hands of his own teammate...no fan would want that...

**Patrick76777** · 08-25-2004, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Tatonka

all good points... yeah.. if he crosses the line.. he is a rb now.

and yeah.. he should learn to slide.

and yeah.. the controvesy is dead for sure now..

but that is ridiculous about vincent..

yeah.. lets beleive some nobody beat reporter over the guy who was right there..

wonder why we havent heard from losman yet..

again.. some stupid controversy stirred up by the media or an agent, and has nothing to do with the players.

doesnt really matter at this point.. the kid is hurt.. and he got hit because he deserved it.. he is starting to think he is a rb.. well i guess the rb should not have let up when he cut back inside.

Right on! I'm getting so sick of the media and the over analyzing. I mean is this football or a soap opera?

They put these morons on air for 4 hours a day, 20 hours a week and they have to make up stuff to talk about. They cover football like politics. They’re never happy unless they find some sort of controversy.

That douche bag Jerry Sullivan is the worst, I think he’s pissed that he never got on PTI or Around the Horn because every one of his pieces is loaded with sarcasm. I’m getting to the point where I don’t even want to talk about or listen to football anymore. I just want to watch the games! Just let the players play.

**Ebenezer** · 08-25-2004, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Patrick76777

Right on! I'm getting so sick of the media and the over analyzing. I mean is this football or a soap opera?

They put these morons on air for 4 hours a day, 20 hours a week and they have to make up stuff to talk about. They cover football like politics. They’re never happy unless they find some sort of controversy.

That douche bag Jerry Sullivan is the worst, I think he’s pissed that he never got on PTI or Around the Horn because every one of his pieces is loaded with sarcasm. I’m getting to the point where I don’t even want to talk about or listen to football anymore. I just want to watch the games! Just let the players play.

did you like me on the radio this morning telling Bob Gaughn that he was way over-reacting???

**justasportsfan** · 08-25-2004, 08:29 AM

Not that I want JP injured but his insistence of not sliding WILL turn him into a Rob Johnson . Thank heavens it happened while he isn't the starter. Hopefully he'll learn from this. Go Zolman!!!!

**Patrick76777** · 08-25-2004, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Ebenezer

did you like me on the radio this morning telling Bob Gaughn that he was way over-reacting???

Was listening to Stern. But now I'm pissed, When did you call and what happened?

**Tatonka** · 08-25-2004, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Ebenezer

you could please explain that one...nobody ever deserves a broken leg at the hands of his own teammate...no fan would want that...

i didnt say he deserved a broken leg..

i said that he is hurt.. and he deserved to be HIT.. if he wants to act like a tough guy RB.. then he needs to be hit like a RB..

unfortunately.. he looks a little fragile.. because it was not like he took a massive shot.. troy leaned into the kid a little, and his leg snapped like a twig.

i wish i could say that this doesnt sound frightningly similar to rob johnson.. but it does.

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