We were better off....

[IAG]

....with Tom Donahoe. While his years were not perfect, the years brought hope and a legit plan to be competitive in the league. The players he brought in, for the most part, are in the league still. Many are still exceptional players.

At the very least, the hot stove was entertaining.

Mike Mularkey has been a great mentor to Matt Ryan. Gregg Williams is a win from going to the Super Bowl as a D.C. A D.C. that revitalized a poor defense.

Everyone will point to Mike Williams, J.P. Losman and I am sure you can come up with others. However, he hit on way more than he missed. He drafted well, traded well, let go of players that were on the downslide, sign FA's that produced and unearthed talent that nobody wanted...Jason Peters and Jabari Greer.

The problem with Donahoe had nothing to do with him, it was the OWNER. I have said it for years and now with what is happening today, it proves the criticism of the owner is justified.

I will take heat for the post, but I think history will remember Donahoe better as time goes on.

If he would have allowed the money to re-sign the likes of Pat Williams and Peerless Price, perhaps the Bills would not be the Lions of the AFC.

[Don't Panic]

Williams, Losman and McGahee have to be three of the worst 1st round flops of the decade. I get what you're saying about how at least there was some talent here at that time, and that get's amplified by how bare the cupboards have been the last four years, but I still don't see us being much better if Donahoe had stuck around. Definitely not as competitive as we'd all like to see...

[Dozerdog]

Williams, Losman and McGahee have to be three of the worst 1st round flops of the decade. I get what you're saying about how at least there was some talent here at that time, and that get's amplified by how bare the cupboards have been the last four years, but I still don't see us being much better if Donahoe had stuck around. Definitely not as competitive as we'd all like to see...

Add in the #1 for Bledsoe



I wonder what would have happened if we grabbed Fox instead of Williams. TD might stil be here and we might have had made the playoffs once or twice

[ddaryl]

he also was responsible for releasing Pat Williams and Antoine Winfield.

Losman cost us a 1st rd pick, and McGahee and Miek Williams were a complete waste of a 1st rd pick.

the guy was making big mistakes that helped reduce this team to what it became the last few years

[Jan Reimers]

Donahoe was an arrogant ***** whose "Look at what a genius I am" style set this franchise back several years. We are still trying to recover.

[IAG]

For the record, Winfield and Williams left via free agency and the Bills did not "have the money" to re-sign them. I blame the owner not the GM. Wilson would not even let him franchise them and trade them like what happened with Price.

I cannot throw McGahee in the bust mix. He was tremendous in the 2004 run plus it was a bonus pick from fleecing Atlanta for Price...another great move.

Bledsoe, was worth the move since the Bills were QB hungry. I would criticize him more for the jettison of Flutie in favor of RJ. Maybe he would have gone 7-9 his first year, he'd been better off. Who knows....

[IAG]

Still trying to recover....look at the guys he brought in that a staring in the league...some this weekend.

Pat Williams
Aaron Schobel
Chris Kelsey
London Fletcher
Takeo Spikes
Lawyer Milloy
Terrence McGee
Lee Evans
Jason Peters
Willis McGahee
Jabari Greer
Brian Moorman

Those guys that are still with the Bills are the team's best players.

I do not want to even get into what he did with the Steelers.

[MikeInRoch]

For the record, Winfield and Williams left via free agency and the Bills did not "have the money" to re-sign them. I blame the owner not the GM. Wilson would not even let him franchise them and trade them like what happened with Price.

"For the record", BS. The Bills had plenty of money to sign Williams, and he was willing to stay. They never ASKED him what he wanted - they just cut off communications. It was ridiculous.

[Dozerdog]

Pat Williams was a Butler acquisition

You would think with what- 50 or so draft picks, more than a handful wold still be on this roster.

The rest were Free Agents - filling in holes left from poor drafting

[IAG]

No way, Ralph Wilson is a terrible owner and CHEAP. Hence, the Chan Gailey hire. How else do you explain NOBODY wanting this stinking job?

Once Wilson leaves the keys to another owner, the Bills will start to win.

[IAG]

Pat Williams was Butler pick up, but became a star under Jerry Gray. Cannot argue that.

[Throne Logic]

....with Tom Donahoe. While his years were not perfect, the years brought hope and a legit plan to be competitive in the league. The players he brought in, for the most part, are in the league still. Many are still exceptional players.

Donahoe's team building priorities were dead wrong. Regardless of the caliber of the players he brought to Buffalo, he failed to place an emphasis on the "trench" players.

Too many skill positions and no foundation for them to work from. Leads to failure every time. TD never seemed to figure that out.

[Dozerdog]

Pat Williams was Butler pick up, but became a star under Jerry Gray. Cannot argue that.

Ummm...No. Cottrell. He then followed Ted Cottrell to the Vikes

[Historian]

Donahoe's team building priorities were dead wrong. Regardless of the caliber of the players he brought to Buffalo, he failed to place an emphasis on the "trench" players.

Too many skill positions and no foundation for them to work from. Leads to failure every time. TD never seemed to figure that out.

Exactly.

[Night Train]

Why did we even bother having a scouting dept. here during the TD era ? It was all him and his niche picks on draft day. That's why some scouts left.

He went down personally and worked out Mike Williams. Roscoe Parrish anyone ? And on..and on..and on..

This last decade has been pretty bad.

[IAG]

The peak of Williams' career was in 2003 and 004 under Jerry Gray. The defense was legit.
DE- Kelsay and Schobel
DT- Adams and Williams
LB- Posey, Fletcher, Spikes
CB- Clements and McGee
S- Milloy and Vincent

What would give for that type of defense today?

[Dozerdog]

The peak of Williams' career was in 2003 and 004 under Jerry Gray. The defense was legit.
DE- Kelsay and Schobel
DT- Adams and Williams
LB- Posey, Fletcher, Spikes
CB- Clements and McGee
S- Milloy and Vincent

What would give for that type of defense today?

If anything- give the credit to Gregg Williams. He has duplicated his defensive success a few times since.


If TD was any good, why is he not in the NFL now?

[IAG]

If TD was any good, why is he not in the NFL now?

You ever think he might want to be with his family? He has done consulting working according to the net.

BTW, should we start listing the players he brought in Pittsburgh.

[Lone Stranger]

Mr. IAG you are in the distinct minority here. I had high hopes for him when he came on board but became very disillusioned with his chicanery.

BTW where has he worked in the NFL since he was let go. I know Chris Mortenson likes him and all the ******s on ESPN but who else.

[Jan Reimers]

If TD was any good, why is he not in the NFL now?

You ever think he might want to be with his family? He has done consulting working according to the net.

BTW, should we start listing the players he brought in Pittsburgh.

Who cares what he did in Pittsburgh? Cowher was most probably the power there, anyway, since he forced Donahoe out.