Bills trading Diggs to texans

[Historian]

Report: Josh Allen "snapped" at Stefon Diggs after Week 1 loss to Jets - NBC Sports

Funny thing is, the last time I remember Diggs honestly taking command of a game (and I could be wrong about this, as he had some very good games against Miami) was the Thanksgiving game in Detroit.

The upstart Lions were keeping it close. Closer than Bills fans were probably comfortable with.

Then in the second half, Diggs *****ed to somebody, and finally started getting targeted.

As I recall, the game winning drive was basically all him, similar to Cooper Kupp in the SB against the Bengals.

After that, I honestly don't remember his "dominating" a game again.

[TheConsigliere]

Funny thing is, the last time I remember Diggs honestly taking command of a game (and I could be wrong about this, as he had some very good games against Miami) was the Thanksgiving game in Detroit.

The upstart Lions were keeping it close. Closer than Bills fans were probably comfortable with.

Then in the second half, Diggs *****ed to somebody, and finally started getting targeted.

As I recall, the game winning drive was basically all him, similar to Cooper Kupp in the SB against the Bengals.

After that, I honestly don't remember his "dominating" a game again.

I am NOT going to crap on Diggs talent-wise.

He is/was very talented.

AND you want a WR who demands the ball be thrown to him.

However, Minny traded him to us pretty quickly and it was NOT all about the emergence of Jefferson.

I suspect he could be a much better leader and positive presence in the locker room.

[sukie]

I recall Jefferson was selected with the first we sent Minny who then selected Jefferson.

[TacklingDummy]

I am NOT going to crap on Diggs talent-wise.

He is/was very talented.

AND you want a WR who demands the ball be thrown to him.

However, Minny traded him to us pretty quickly and it was NOT all about the emergence of Jefferson.

I suspect he could be a much better leader and positive presence in the locker room.

I thought the Vikings used the pick they got for Diggs to draft Jefferson?

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I am NOT going to crap on Diggs talent-wise.

He is/was very talented.

AND you want a WR who demands the ball be thrown to him.

However, Minny traded him to us pretty quickly and it was NOT all about the emergence of Jefferson.

I suspect he could be a much better leader and positive presence in the locker room.

I thought the Vikings used the pick they got for Diggs to draft Jefferson?

[YardRat]

Morse....Poyer....Hyde....White...Diggs...even Davis, Neal and Matakevitch. All gone. All but Neal part of the leadership group.

Out with the old, in with the new.

I would think that one thing everybody could finally agree on is the first window for winning a championship has officially been closed with the jettisoning of the old crew and it remains to be seen how open the next one is going to be with the new guys.

[justasportsfan]

I recall Jefferson was selected with the first we sent Minny who then selected Jefferson.

Yup

[TacklingDummy]

31 Morse
32 Poyer
33 Hyde (Never know)
29 Tre: injured last 3 years basically
30 Diggs : disappeared last 6 playoff games
25 Big Game Gabe: best of luck
29 Siran Neal
31 Matakevitch
31 Floyd: Disappeard last 8 games
26 Deonte Harty
27 Nyheim Hines
27 Damien Harris
26 Tim Settle
25 Tyrel Dodson
28 Poona Ford
31 Jordan Phillips
35 Livan Joseph
34 Latavius Murray
29 Shaq Lawson
27 Dane Jackson
28 Trent Sherfield
8 Kyle Allen


The no cap space Bills have resigned or signed

27 Mike Edwards S
25 AJ Epensa DE
29 Matt Haack P
29 Mitch Trubisky QB
26 Taylor Rapp S
25 Quintin Morris TE
29 Dion Dawkins T
26 Cam Lewis DB
32 Daquan Jones DT
30 Mack Hollins WR
28 Nicholas Morrow LB
28 Curtis Samuel WR
27 Taron Johnson CB
28 Casey Toohill DE
26 Ty Johnson RB
27 David Edwards T
28 Will Clapp OL
29 Austin Johnson DT
31 DeShawn Williams DT
30 La’el Collins T

Bills going to need a few hits on draft picks.

Selections 28,60,128,133,160,163,189,200,248

[TacklingDummy]

Yup

So basically the Bills got Diggs for 4 years for the 22nd 2020 pick and now get back the Vikings 2nd round 2025 pick which should be a early 2nd.

Beane magic getting that 2nd round pick.

[kgun12]

Morse....Poyer....Hyde....White...Diggs...even Davis, Neal and Matakevitch. All gone. All but Neal part of the leadership group.

Out with the old, in with the new.

I would think that one thing everybody could finally agree on is the first window for winning a championship has officially been closed with the jettisoning of the old crew and it remains to be seen how open the next one is going to be with the new guys.

That’s the big question, but two years ago by the end of the season KC had 6-7 rookies starting or being major contributors to their first of the two back to back SB wins. I think all but 2 were on defense. What was the X factor (s) Mahomes and Kelce. They were old and got young. Hopefully the same works for the Bills.

[kgun12]

31 Morse
32 Poyer
33 Hyde (Never know)
29 Tre: injured last 3 years basically
30 Diggs : disappeared last 6 playoff games
25 Big Game Gabe: best of luck
29 Siran Neal
31 Matakevitch
31 Floyd: Disappeard last 8 games
26 Deonte Harty
27 Nyheim Hines
27 Damien Harris
26 Tim Settle
25 Tyrel Dodson
28 Poona Ford
31 Jordan Phillips
35 Livan Joseph
34 Latavius Murray
29 Shaq Lawson
27 Dane Jackson
28 Trent Sherfield
8 Kyle Allen


The no cap space Bills have resigned or signed

27 Mike Edwards S
25 AJ Epensa DE
29 Matt Haack P
29 Mitch Trubisky QB
26 Taylor Rapp S
25 Quintin Morris TE
29 Dion Dawkins T
26 Cam Lewis DB
32 Daquan Jones DT
30 Mack Hollins WR
28 Nicholas Morrow LB
28 Curtis Samuel WR
27 Taron Johnson CB
28 Casey Toohill DE
26 Ty Johnson RB
27 David Edwards T
28 Will Clapp OL
29 Austin Johnson DT
31 DeShawn Williams DT
30 La’el Collins T

Bills going to need a few hits on draft picks.

Selections 28,60,128,133,160,163,189,200,248

Out of the guys we lost, the only one I would have liked to keep is Morse. Even though some here don’t understand or want to understand is McGovern was brought here to be Morse’s replacement. This didn’t just happen the night before they had to be cap compliant, they had a plan. The big question is, was/is it the right plan? We will find out.

[Woodman]

Report: Josh Allen "snapped" at Stefon Diggs after Week 1 loss to Jets - NBC Sports

Good news!

[notacon]

Report: Josh Allen "snapped" at Stefon Diggs after Week 1 loss to Jets - NBC Sports

It sure is looking more and more that the best thing for this team was to move on from Diggs and put all their eggs into the Josh Allen basket.

THIS was the time to do that. The Bills only chance at finally getting over that hump is to let Josh Allen be his best self. EVERY move, EVERY offensive player acquisition, EVERY offensive strategy has to be to maximize Josh's full potential.

Moving on from (from all appearances) although a talented player was a divisive presence in the locker room who (in some ways) thought the then revolved around HIM!!!

The team revolves around Josh Allen.

Bills management just put a HUGE exclamation point on that fact.

Which is why I believe this team will be BETTER in 2024 and going forward. No more need to coddle the big mouth diva who thinks his **** does not stink.

[Woodman]

“I didn’t know what Stefon Diggs said to him, but Josh Allen snapped at him,” Graham said, via LarryBrownSports.com. “He said, ‘It’s one f—ing game!’ and kind of motioned like I’m not talking to you here. And Diggs walked away and Josh sat there. In retrospect, keeping in mind this was Week 1 when for all we know everyone is hunky dory, but looking back on it I wish I would have included that in my story or made some sort of reference to it. Maybe Stefon Diggs was saying something nice to him, but [Allen] didn’t snap at anybody else.”

Chances are Allen didn’t snap without a reason. He doesn’t seem to be that way. Maybe he was on edge after throwing three interceptions and losing in prime time to Zach Wilson. Or maybe Diggs made a comment that pushed his buttons.

[Woodman]

Report: Josh Allen "snapped" at Stefon Diggs after Week 1 loss to Jets - NBC Sports

Never allow the inmates to run the asylum.

[notacon]

Funny thing is, the last time I remember Diggs honestly taking command of a game (and I could be wrong about this, as he had some very good games against Miami) was the Thanksgiving game in Detroit.

The upstart Lions were keeping it close. Closer than Bills fans were probably comfortable with.

Then in the second half, Diggs *****ed to somebody, and finally started getting targeted.

As I recall, the game winning drive was basically all him, similar to Cooper Kupp in the SB against the Bengals.

After that, I honestly don't remember his "dominating" a game again.

Well...he "dominated" STINKING in the last game of last year.

The first two plays of the 2023 playoff loss to KC was Diggs fumbling the ball with Kincaid saving it by pushing it out of bounds before a KC player could pick it up...fantastic 10 yard penalty.

The next play, 2nd and 17 yards Diggs dropped the ball at the first down maker after getting hit.

He literally had ONE good catch all game. 2nd and 11 at Bills 34 first play after the 2 min warning for the 1st half. He grabbed a bullet from Allen over the middle for 15 yards. He was invisible the rest of that TD drive and the game.

He had ONE more catch for 3 yards (5 yards was added by KC penalty) on the Bills first drive of the second half.

In the last drive of the day for the Bills, Diggs had THREE incomplete passes. Highlighted by the drop of the perfect DIME by Josh that went 65 yards in the air.

Biggest game of the year and Diggs was an albatross not a help.

[Woodman]

Report: Josh Allen "snapped" at Stefon Diggs after Week 1 loss to Jets - NBC Sports

and that's when the love affair ended.

[FanBack]

Stefon Diggs playoff stats - 2021 - 33.5 yards/game, 0 TDs. 2022 - 74.5 yards/game, 0 TDs. 2023 - 36.5 yards/ game, 0 TDs.

[notacon]

So basically the Bills got Diggs for 4 years for the 22nd 2020 pick and now get back the Vikings 2nd round 2025 pick which should be a early 2nd.

Beane magic getting that 2nd round pick.

It's looking like getting that second round pick was vastly maximizing his worth, especially considering a couple of other trades this off season.

The two biggest trades (besides Diggs) were WR Keenan Allen and CB L'Jarius Sneed.

Keenan is the closet comparison. He's one year older than DIggs but played about the same number of games. Their career stats are pretty close...

	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Catch %	Yds	Y/R	Y/G	TD
Keenan Allen	139	134	1309	904	69.06%	10530	11.6	75.8	59
Stefon Diggs	136	128	1178	810	68.76%	9995	12.3	73.5	67

But, for 2023, the difference between the two is stark, considering Allen played four fewer games that Diggs....especially in YRD/G...26 yards PER GAME AVG difference....

	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Catch %	Yds	Y/R	Y/G	TD
Keenan Allen 2023	13	13	150	108	72.00%	1243	11.5	95.6	7
Stefon Diggs 2023	17	17	160	107	66.88%	1183	11.1	69.6	8

Yet, LA got only a 4th round pick for Keenan (#110 overall) while the Bills got Minny's (through HOU) 2025 2nd round pick that could easily be a top 10 in that round, while also sending this year's 6th round (#18) and next years 5th (probably around #150).

Using this draft value chart, (assuming a Top 10 2nd round pick in 2025, and giving a 2024 6th round (#189) and 2025 5th round, (around #150) the Bills received a final value of about 424 points.

Meanwhile, LAC got a draft pick valued at only 74.

Sneed was considered a "franchise" CB. Only 27 years old in the prime of his career, and KC got the Titans 2025 3rd round pick equivalent (depending on 2024 record) of about 65 (after the swap of 2024 7th round picks)

Getting the equivalent of 400+ draft point value is pretty damn good, while ridding the team of what seems like a divisive presence in the locker room.

[Woodman]

Stefon Diggs playoff stats - 2021 - 33.5 yards/game, 0 TDs. 2022 - 74.5 yards/game, 0 TDs. 2023 - 36.5 yards/ game, 0 TDs.

Not very impressive for a difference maker.

Let's have a great draft!!

[justasportsfan]

So basically the Bills got Diggs for 4 years for the 22nd 2020 pick and now get back the Vikings 2nd round 2025 pick which should be a early 2nd.

Beane magic getting that 2nd round pick.

We lost a 5th this year and 6th next year which would make the 2nd we get from the Viking a later 2nd rd?