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  • ICE74129
    Legendary Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 10796

    Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

    For all the *****ing and whining you guys are ignoring fact. FACT would be no one worth a damn on average wants to play for the Bills. FACTS are until we sign some mid tier FA's, Draft well and play worth a damn with good coaching, we aren't going to get anyone worth a damn in here.

    We have an owner that voted against the CBA pissing off some players I am sure. (right or wrong doesn't matter). We have an 80+ year old GM, New staff, 3rd HC in 6 years etc.

    With stuff like that esp 3 HC in 6 years that shows potential FAs no stability in this franchise. Yeah I want to come play for DJ but will he be here in 2 years? Tons of stigma's that have to be gotten rid of before we can really attract people.

    FACTS are Marv Levy is paying for Tom Donahoe's sins. You can't shake that off in one offseason. Marv is trying but he has the deck stacked against him at this point.

    So again I say, Sign good up and coming mid tier FA's like NE did. Draft well like NE did. Then play some solid football which we can with good coaching (And I think we finally have that again) and show potential FA's we are not the team of the last 6 years and are on the way up. When that is done guys will want to come here.

    Marv called the agent for Mawae before FA started. No visit came, why? Apperantly he didn't want to be here. Fabini was apperantly having his agent work his arse off to get a deal done with Tampa or Dallas while getting a free meal from the Bills, so he really didn't want to be here either. We were option 3 or 4. Pickett the same way. he hauled arse outta here and didn't meet with our press. The next day he signs with GB.

    We do NOT want guys that are here just because we offer more money. We want FA's that actually have us 1 or 2 on thier FA list and let money be 'A' factor. Not THE factor. It never works out well if the guy is just here for money.

    I will finish with remember what it was like when we were an attractive team? Bryce Paup, chris spielman etc all wanted to be here. How did they do for us? Quinn Early was brought in as a #2 WR to Reed. he really wanted to go to Dallas, Atlanta or back to New Orleans to stay near where he family was. But we WAY out bid for him. How did that work out? The guy sucked for us.

    We need to get through this offseason and draft well. Let the process play its self out. We will have a good amount of cap room next year and if we play well on the field (wins and losses mean nothing, play well and improve) then we will be higher on better FA's lists.
  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    #2
    Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

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    just read billsdaily.com03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    Un friggen BILLievable03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    Pickett - Weight...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    Pickett - Weight...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    OT Jason Fabini Coming...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    OT Jason Fabini Coming...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    IF I were GM03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    TO, TO, Where will he go?03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    Bledsoe and TO03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    Not so breaking news: ...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
    Wells offersheet03-18-2006 09:36 AMn
    Wells03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
    Wells03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
    OMFG - 14 Min. left -...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
    Redskins wanted to...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
    WGR55 IS NOW STREAMING...03-18-2006 09:36 AMn
    What's Left in Free...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
    What's Left in Free...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
    I like this guy.. a lot03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this



    Speaking of reality, look at what ICE just did to my account this morning. He was upset by being negged back a whole 1 point and then actually spent time looking up every single post I've made and negging me. This goes on for pages.

    Since he's been booted off both TSW and BB.com ( Undertaker ) for his sparkling behavior, he's bringing his REALITY over here.

    Impressive !
    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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    • Philagape
      WIN NOW
      • Jul 2002
      • 19432

      #3
      Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

      Originally posted by ICE74129
      For all the *****ing and whining you guys are ignoring fact. FACT would be no one worth a damn on average wants to play for the Bills. FACTS are until we sign some mid tier FA's, Draft well and play worth a damn with good coaching, we aren't going to get anyone worth a damn in here.
      It's because of those facts that I'm *****ing and whining.
      "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

      "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

      2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
      2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

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      • ICE74129
        Legendary Zoner
        • Feb 2005
        • 10796

        #4
        Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

        Originally posted by Night Train
        ThreadDateComment
        just read billsdaily.com03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        Un friggen BILLievable03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        Pickett - Weight...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        Pickett - Weight...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        OT Jason Fabini Coming...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        OT Jason Fabini Coming...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        IF I were GM03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        TO, TO, Where will he go?03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        Bledsoe and TO03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        Not so breaking news: ...03-18-2006 09:43 AMNeg this
        Wells offersheet03-18-2006 09:36 AMn
        Wells03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
        Wells03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
        OMFG - 14 Min. left -...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
        Redskins wanted to...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
        WGR55 IS NOW STREAMING...03-18-2006 09:36 AMn
        What's Left in Free...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
        What's Left in Free...03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this
        I like this guy.. a lot03-18-2006 09:36 AMNeg this



        Speaking of reality, look at what ICE just did to my account this morning. He was upset by being negged back a whole 1 point and then actually spent time looking up every single post I've made and negging me. This goes on for pages.

        Since he's been booted off both TSW and BB.com ( Undertaker ) for his sparkling behavior, he's bringing his REALITY over here.

        Impressive !
        I did that? Hummm....I know several that are tired of your crap. That type of negging has been going on lately.

        As for as TBD and BB.com I can post at both, I just sit back and talk to buddies over there. R.Rich can verify

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        • ICE74129
          Legendary Zoner
          • Feb 2005
          • 10796

          #5
          Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

          Originally posted by Philagape
          It's because of those facts that I'm *****ing and whining.
          so you are *****ing because Marv is screwed over THIS offseason thanks to TD? thats messed up.

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          • ICE74129
            Legendary Zoner
            • Feb 2005
            • 10796

            #6
            Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

            Originally posted by ICE74129
            I did that? Hummm....I know several that are tired of your crap. That type of negging has been going on lately.

            As for as TBD and BB.com I can post at both, I just sit back and talk to buddies over there. R.Rich can verify
            And you can ask around, if it were just me, your arse wouldn't have a positive point.

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            • Philagape
              WIN NOW
              • Jul 2002
              • 19432

              #7
              Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

              Originally posted by ICE74129
              so you are *****ing because Marv is screwed over THIS offseason thanks to TD? thats messed up.
              That's a lame excuse. Why would a player not want to play here because of a GM who's no longer here? Athletes aren't that dumb. I would think Marv's got a pretty good reputation around the league, unless people hold his age against him, which you suggested yourself. In that case, Marv is screwed, period. He isn't going to grow younger, and neither is Ralph, so why would anyone think we have stability now or in the future?
              Maybe players think Ralph is the problem, and that can't be pinned on TD.
              "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

              "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

              2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
              2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

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              • ICE74129
                Legendary Zoner
                • Feb 2005
                • 10796

                #8
                Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                Originally posted by Philagape
                That's a lame excuse. Why would a player not want to play here because of a GM who's no longer here? Athletes aren't that dumb. I would think Marv's got a pretty good reputation around the league, unless people hold his age against him, which you suggested yourself. In that case, Marv is screwed, period. He isn't going to grow younger, and neither is Ralph, so why would anyone think we have stability now or in the future?
                Maybe players think Ralph is the problem, and that can't be pinned on TD.
                TD screwed up this franchise. the FRANCHISE isn't attractive that is why they dont' want to play here. That is on TD, not marv. Marv is a HOF coach that has the respect of all of the former players he coached. Marv isn't the issue.

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                • Nighthawk
                  Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 15437

                  #9
                  Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                  Originally posted by ICE74129
                  TD screwed up this franchise. the FRANCHISE isn't attractive that is why they dont' want to play here. That is on TD, not marv. Marv is a HOF coach that has the respect of all of the former players he coached. Marv isn't the issue.
                  I agree with ICE that the franchise may be the issue and not Marv. However, I just don't know if Marv is cut out to be a GM. We will see after this year...maybe I'm wrong. Crap, I hope I'm wrong!

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                  • ICE74129
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 10796

                    #10
                    Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                    He will be fine nighthawk. I would have been worried if he tried to reach and outbid for hutch or Bentley. he knows how NE built thier team. He also knows what a mess the Bills are now.

                    This is why I expect us to try and trade down a spot or two, still take Bunkley, and pick up more picks to build though this draft

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                    • Philagape
                      WIN NOW
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 19432

                      #11
                      Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                      What about the franchise is not attractive now? What's the constant? What is it that TD did that remains after he's gone?
                      Few teams have the stigma of losing that Arizona has, but they landed Edgerrin James, among others. Cleveland has been an embarassment ever since it returned to the league, but they've had a windfall this offseason. The last team I'd want to play for right now is New Orleans, but Drew Brees disagreed. Stigma is no excuse.
                      "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

                      "Those who appease the crocodile will simply be eaten last." -- Winston Churchill

                      2003 BZ Pick Em Champion
                      2004 BZ Big Money League Champion

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                      • Nighthawk
                        Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 15437

                        #12
                        Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                        Originally posted by ICE74129
                        He will be fine nighthawk. I would have been worried if he tried to reach and outbid for hutch or Bentley. he knows how NE built thier team. He also knows what a mess the Bills are now.

                        This is why I expect us to try and trade down a spot or two, still take Bunkley, and pick up more picks to build though this draft
                        Now, if we could move down, get more picks and get Bunkley...WOW, that would be the $hiit!

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                        • DynaPaul
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 7540

                          #13
                          Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                          It could be worse, we could be the Patriots. They've bleed talent this off-season like their jugular was cut and no one wants to play for their non-loyal cheap asses. Meshawn Johnson had this to say about coming to New England"

                          "Man, I think about Matt Hasselbeck putting the ball between the 1 and
                          the 9 on my jersey, and my heart starts racing," Johnson said. "I think
                          about Trent Green tossing it around downfield, or Donovan McNabb
                          scrambling and chucking it 80 yards.... I think about being part of Eli
                          Manning's emergence, or helping Daunte Culpepper get back on track ...
                          and there's always Tom Brady if I'm willing to play for $5 a year."

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                          • feelthepain
                            All-Pro Zoner
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4663

                            #14
                            Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                            Originally posted by Philagape
                            What about the franchise is not attractive now? What's the constant? What is it that TD did that remains after he's gone?
                            Few teams have the stigma of losing that Arizona has, but they landed Edgerrin James, among others. Cleveland has been an embarassment ever since it returned to the league, but they've had a windfall this offseason. The last team I'd want to play for right now is New Orleans, but Drew Brees disagreed. Stigma is no excuse.
                            Money, money, money, money.....it's all about the money, you spend it, you have a legit chance to win. You don't, and it's obvious the whole reason most everyone wanted to get the CBA done was to have more money to spend. RW is living in 1950 when the best palyer in football signed a 5000.00 contract.He needs to step down and give the control to someone that is a little more able to handle the current NFL. This isn't a knock on RW, it's just his time to step down.

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                            • ICE74129
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 10796

                              #15
                              Re: Lets talk about the reality of the Bills

                              Originally posted by DevilPaul
                              It could be worse, we could be the Patriots. They've bleed talent this off-season like their jugular was cut and no one wants to play for their non-loyal cheap asses. Meshawn Johnson had this to say about coming to New England"

                              "Man, I think about Matt Hasselbeck putting the ball between the 1 and
                              the 9 on my jersey, and my heart starts racing," Johnson said. "I think
                              about Trent Green tossing it around downfield, or Donovan McNabb
                              scrambling and chucking it 80 yards.... I think about being part of Eli
                              Manning's emergence, or helping Daunte Culpepper get back on track ...
                              and there's always Tom Brady if I'm willing to play for $5 a year."
                              I think Meshawn is going to be shocked at how little he makes now.

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